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The Teen Obesity Problem in America."

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
The condition of children is never their fault. Just as we have a generation of parents who don't know how to say "no" or ever want their children to be unhappy, we also have a generation of parents who are shockingly uneducated about nutrition.

As the father of a 2 1/2 year old daughter in an overall educated and "progressive" area, I'm somewhat shocked how I see other parents feed their kids from a young age and readily fall back on the excuse that they won't eat anything else.

My wife and have been measurably overweight for 15 years to varying degrees, but have always known it's a matter of our diet and exercise habits. But that's our decision and choice. We can completely control what our daughter eats, so she has an amazingly healthy diet. What's insane is that other parents we know don't seem to actualize this simple fact. They take it at face value that their 2 year old will only eat chicken nuggets, hot dogs, and soda (really?), and that they never had any choice in the matter.

We never introduced overly salty, sweet, or processed foods, so now, even when she has access to them, she self-regulates, and doesn't need, or even pursue them.

The number of people who regularly give their toddlers, or even babies, fast food, soda, etc. Is shocking to me.

You may intake this stuff, but everyone, at minimum, should know it's nutritionless and calorie dense. That so many people do it, and assuming people want to do well for their children, indicates that a large number of people are either wilfully in denial or just unreasonably ignorant.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
Physical beauty is, of course in the eye of the beholder (as beautifully exemplified by Nietzsche's candid comment), but to misguide women that you can look any way you want to look and feel good about it, you're doing an enormous segment of the female population a dramatic disservice because you're essentially endorsing not only poor health but a lifestyle that is likely going to lead to more misery for women who would otherwise be happier as a direct consequence of simply looking better.
Allow me to translate;

"Physical beauty is, of course, in the eye of the beholder (except when I say it isn't as I'm about to), but to tell women that they can be happy and loved for how they look, unless it's how I think they should, is doing a dramatic disservice because you're essentially endorsing happiness for people I think are ugly, and that's bad, mmkay?"
 

Nyingjé Tso

Dharma not drama
The condition of children is never their fault. Just as we have a generation of parents who don't know how to say "no" or ever want their children to be unhappy, we also have a generation of parents who are shockingly uneducated about nutrition.

As the father of a 2 1/2 year old daughter in an overall educated and "progressive" area, I'm somewhat shocked how I see other parents feed their kids from a young age and readily fall back on the excuse that they won't eat anything else.

My wife and have been measurably overweight for 15 years to varying degrees, but have always known it's a matter of our diet and exercise habits. But that's our decision and choice. We can completely control what our daughter eats, so she has an amazingly healthy diet. What's insane is that other parents we know don't seem to actualize this simple fact. They take it at face value that their 2 year old will only eat chicken nuggets, hot dogs, and soda (really?), and that they never had any choice in the matter.

We never introduced overly salty, sweet, or processed foods, so now, even when she has access to them, she self-regulates, and doesn't need, or even pursue them.

The number of people who regularly give their toddlers, or even babies, fast food, soda, etc. Is shocking to me.

You may intake this stuff, but everyone, at minimum, should know it's nutritionless and calorie dense. That so many people do it, and assuming people want to do well for their children, indicates that a large number of people are either wilfully in denial or just unreasonably ignorant.

Vanakkam

I totally agree with this.
I stayed a bit in the US and was baffled by the amount of soda and fast/fried/unhealthy food parents give to their childs
Saw the Same thing in some parts of India too
Child throw a tantrum cause wanna eat burgers all week, parents give them what they want. Parents should be more responsable of their child's health.

It's also important to educate childrens and making them curious in actually TRYING food they don't know. I had a class of 4 yo, and instead of them bringing their chocolaté bars and biscuits, the market next door gave the school fruits for free. So each children could try a fruit, sometimes exotic fruits they don't know, and it worked wonderfully !

There are a lot of very Nice and proactive things to do instead of shaming Big people. Seriously. Are you people some kind of playground bullies, at your age ? Grow up.

My Bf went to see a food spécialist. She told him that He was still gaining weight because he did not eat enough... First I was very skeptic. So, He ate MORE, but not ****ty things: no toasts and jam on morning, only bread and butter. One meat, one portion starch thing (potato or pasta etc...) and one portion vegetable. Then a yoghurt or cheese, and a fruit. At every meal...
One month later, He lost 2kg and his body is starting tout build muscle.

So it's really a matter of :
- eating enough (not starving oneself)
- eating healthy (a bit of everything)

So it's a matter of educating everyone about eating well.

Not about shaming "fat people cuz they are ugly lololol"
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I have a pet theory based in part on my education and experience
with people.
Oral fixation. Excessive alcohol use, down the throat.
Excessive eating, down the throat.
Obesity and alcohol abuse are both emotional/psychological disorders.
Sounds cromulent to me.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Don't like being obese? Change your life style, not just your diet.
EVERYONE here will love and support you.
Just dieting won't work. You need make lifestyle changes.
I blame fast food parents for this epidemic that is ruining our youth.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
You know nothing about who I am and how I genuinely feel about people.
That...makes zero sense. Are you saying you're just lying and presenting a false persona on here? Wtf. So which are you: fake, a troll or telling us how you really feel? Either way, it doesn't reflect well on you as a person.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Not only is it in nutrition, but also in exercise/activity. Instead of 'Let's watch the game together', why isn't it, 'Let's go play catch.' We've become inactive, in no small part to TV, and now computers.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It's sad and pathetic how quickly people are to judge, assume, mock, and ridicule. Rather than demonizing people, we need to demonize our increasing expectations to be sedentary, the fact sugar is added to damn near everything, and abysmal nutritional and physical fitness education. But, when we try to give the consumer more power and information, many like to complain it's an infringement on the free market or will make things "too complicated." Many things need to be done and need to change: shaming fat people is not one of them, and it will accomplish nothing except making themselves feel terrible about themselves.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Not only is it in nutrition, but also in exercise/activity. Instead of 'Let's watch the game together', why isn't it, 'Let's go play catch.' We've become inactive, in no small part to TV, and now computers.
Even our jobs. We sit for a commute to, we sit hour after hour to work, and then we sit again for another commute home.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Even our jobs. We sit for a commute to, we sit hour after hour to work, and then we sit again for another commute home.

It's hard to believe that 70 000 people will pay $100 apiece or more to watch 60 other people get paid a couple hundred thousand dollars apiece to play a game they like to play, all the while eating junk food, and drinking beer. lol It blows the mind.
 
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Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
People who are overweight often do not understand the difference between exercise and fitness, or diet and nutrition. It would be a good place to start, if they are serious about becoming healthier.

Research is important... not just the kind you read but the kind you experience. People should research why certain exercises are more effective at achieving certain goals than others, and why certain foods are more nutritious than others. So many obese people attempting to lose weight by slaving away on steps or treadmills until they can't stand anymore likely have no idea what they are doing, at all. If they did, they'd probably be doing anaerobic exercise instead. Many of these people have no idea why that is or what that even means.

Most importantly, people underestimate their own ability to help themselves. Your mind is your most powerful ally, as well as your greatest enemy. Respect its potential as both, or face the consequences.


 

Timothy Bryce

Active Member
Oooh. Touched a nerve, did I?

What in that question indicated even the slightest inkling of emotion? I asked you a simple question. Your response seems to reflect a resounding "no". You sound like a desperate fool here.

Projecting, dear?

No, it's simply a well founded observation.

There's a hilarious quote from an American Dad! episode that is as follows -

Stan: "Of course it's what on the outside that matters, otherwise I would've married that fat girl I had all those deep conversations with."

LOL so true.

I don't want to think about Groper-in-Chief's sex life if I'm honest.

I'd say it's because it's an unmistakable reflection of your own petty presence in the world.

And there it is! It's nice to just come out and admit you're a horrible person, isn't it? This isn't me judging you, I'm a piece of **** too. But I don't try to hide it.

Lol what?

So I've got a thing for fat chicks and you....have a thing for dumb ones? Got it.

I have a thing for whichever woman garners my attention at the time. I don't have a fetish for fatties or anything of that nature.

It's all pink on the inside. I hope that's something we can agree on.
 

Timothy Bryce

Active Member
It's the human condition and a society promoting the opposite with readily available means to self destruct.

Some fascinating research done by Dr. Watzlawick and a few others resulted in some extremely fascinating findings. Essentially, and with children especially, humans will do the opposite of what's good for them, or what's being told of them to do. The resolution to these problems is almost always the thing you didn't expect, or the opposite course of action you would think to follow. So, (and this is just a fly by hypothesis) I would venture to guess that so much attention on bodily standards (not standards themselves), along with present day attitudinal movements to not "give a f***," and the widespread availability of just about anything unhealthy have allowed a state of decay to where humans of all ages are engaging in self destructive activities and then justifying said activities with the moral support of movements like "Be comfortable with your body as it is" style rhetoric, even though such attitudes rarely result in perceived happiness... they're just a front for a deeper sadness.

Dr. Watzlawick's book if interested.
Source for link between obesity and depression

A good post that got lost amidst the pissing contests and flabby arms flopping all over the place while fist pumping.
 
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