The Teen Obesity Problem in America."

[savagewind]

Sugar, sugar everywhere.

The mixed garlic salt I bought last week has "sugar". I use it, but I won't buy it again.

 

[savagewind]

I completely agree. The condition of people's bodies can reveal a lot about their choices, their experiences, their lifestyles, their Will, etc... more than a lot of these people would like to admit. Instead of doing something about it, many of these people become fond of their excuses, they deny the reality of the situation and they live in denial, or they just give up on improving their level of fitness.

You seem to be sure. How do you know?

 

[savagewind]

Some people seem to think that weight gain is a simple formula of calorie intake and energy output. I think it is not as simple as that.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

I completely agree. The condition of people's bodies can reveal a lot about their choices, their experiences, their lifestyles, their Will, etc... more than a lot of these people would like to admit. Instead of doing something about it, many of these people become fond of their excuses, they deny the reality of the situation and they live in denial, or they just give up on improving their level of fitness.

I do not feel sympathy for them or encourage their delusion. However, this needn't stand in the way of me establishing connections or even friendships with them... but romantic and erotic relationships are entirely out of the question.

As I said earlier, this is a gross oversimplification of how the body works and how complex the obesity problem is. Sure, there are people for which diet and exercise are the obvious solution, but there are people who it is not.
I worked out three days a week and ate cleanly for years, did two half marathons and two distance relay races, but I was still obese. It wasn't until my Polycistic ovarian syndrome was diagnosed and controlled with medicine that I actually lost the weight. Don't be so quick to judge.

 

[Timothy Bryce]

As I said earlier, this is a gross oversimplification of how the body works and how complex the obesity problem is. Sure, there are people for which diet and exercise are the obvious solution, but there are people who it is not.
I worked out three days a week and ate cleanly for years, did two half marathons and two distance relay races, but I was still obese. It wasn't until my Polycistic ovarian syndrome was diagnosed and controlled with medicine that I actually lost the weight. Don't be so quick to judge.

I don't see much judgement in the post you responded to; in fact, aren't there parallels between what you've just said and the message you just replied to?

It's about addressing the issue and being realistic about one's own situation.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I don't see much judgement in the post you responded to; in fact, aren't there parallels between what you've just said and the message you just replied to?

It's about addressing the issue and being realistic about one's own situation.

You're the one making the judgement calls against fat people. You not only judge fat people, and say they should feel ashamed of themselves, you judge those attracted to them. And labeling Nietzsche as "chick repellant?" Can an attractive woman not be smart enough to pick up philosophy and be turned on by such "nerdy" talk?

I have a fatass aunty (thankfully not blood related) who is extremely passionate about hurtful comments about women specifically being criticized for their weight and how it can lead to bulimia/anorexia. She's always banging on about it and never hesitates to bring up the one time my drunken grandmother made a comment about how her daughter (and subsequently her granddaughter) should lose a little weight.

People shouldn't feel "proud" of being fat; they should feel ashamed enough that they feel compelled to improve themselves.

"Fatty" is not allowed anymore? That's almost as big of a joke as a fat person ordering fish and fries as a means to go the "healthy" route.

Unfortunately, the logical consequence of this is that the attractive, intelligent and desirable have to compromise themselves because of the ugly, the stupid and the mediocre. Not to mention people who are just flat out freaks.

Besides, guys who claim to be into fat chicks (like you) are typically pathetic men who can't do any better. Do you think Donald Trump would ever bang a fat chick? Self-delusion goes a long way. I feel sorry for you dude. Maybe take your mind off your inability to ever get a decent lay and bury your sorry little head in another Nietzsche book; hot chicks totally dig Nietzsche - it's totally not chick repellant at all! LOL

Stan: "Of course it's what on the outside that matters, otherwise I would've married that fat girl I had all those deep conversations with."

LOL so true.

I'd say it's because it's an unmistakable reflection of your own petty presence in the world.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

So being a fatty is dangerous and selfish

Should we say the same about driving? It too is very costly, very destructive, and very dangerous.

 

[psychoslice]

I completely agree. The condition of people's bodies can reveal a lot about their choices, their experiences, their lifestyles, their Will, etc... more than a lot of these people would like to admit. Instead of doing something about it, many of these people become fond of their excuses, they deny the reality of the situation and they live in denial, or they just give up on improving their level of fitness.

I do not feel sympathy for them or encourage their delusion. However, this needn't stand in the way of me establishing connections or even friendships with them... but romantic and erotic relationships are entirely out of the question.

Sadly they even put a strain on the hospital system, with all the various complications of being over weight, as also smokers.

 

[psychoslice]

Should we say the same about driving? It too is very costly, very destructive, and very dangerous.

But you can say that about just anything, but being grossly over weight is caused by oneself, and adds a lot of pressure on the hospital system.

 

[Nietzsche]

But you can say that about just anything, but being grossly over weight is caused by oneself, and adds a lot of pressure on the hospital system.

So does skipping vaccinations.

 

[psychoslice]

So does skipping vaccinations.

I wont argue with that, I myself had only one vaccination in my whole life which caused me all sorts of problems, so yea, not for me personally.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Can an attractive woman not be smart enough to pick up philosophy and be turned on by such "nerdy" talk?

Nope. Women are all stupid bimbos and none of them have any idea who Nietzsche is. They only care about bulging muscles, shiny things, money and shoes.

 

[Timothy Bryce]

Nope. Women are all stupid bimbos and none of them have any idea who Nietzsche is. They only care about bulging muscles, shiny things, money and shoes.

Damn straight!

 

[Timothy Bryce]

You're the one making the judgement calls against fat people. You not only judge fat people, and say they should feel ashamed of themselves, you judge those attracted to them. And labeling Nietzsche as "chick repellant?" Can an attractive woman not be smart enough to pick up philosophy and be turned on by such "nerdy" talk?

Admittedly, I went a tad bit overboard in my criticisms of certain members in this thread which I understand and now respect is Rule 1. I've since changed my approach to engage with this forum so that I adhere to the rules and try to minimize the offense caused to people by my postings.

To address your post: of course there are plenty of attractive women who are intelligent - every woman I work with fits that description. But the workplace is not (usually) a great place to pick up.

However, usually people hook up at places like bars. Places where talking about Hitler & the Nazis, existential philosophy and 19th century Romantic poetics is a complete and utter turn off. Are you really disputing that? Social contexts are complicated, but there are some clear rules of attraction when regarding initially meeting a potential sex/love interest. I've found that intellectual and deep stuff usually comes later down the track. If you're lucky.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Nope. Women are all stupid bimbos and none of them have any idea who Nietzsche is. They only care about bulging muscles, shiny things, money and shoes.

To me, some Nietzsche and Rammstein can make for some very fun sexy time!

 

[Timothy Bryce]

To me, some Nietzsche and Rammstein can make for some very fun sexy time!

Ugh.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Ugh.

For slave/master, sub/dom, sado/maso, they can be used rather effectively.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

However, usually people hook up at places like bars. Places where talking about Hitler & the Nazis, existential philosophy and 19th century Romantic poetics is a complete and utter turn off. Are you really disputing that? Social contexts are complicated, but there are some clear rules of attraction when regarding initially meeting a potential sex/love interest. I've found that intellectual and deep stuff usually comes later down the track. If you're lucky.

Sometimes people hook up at bars. Sometimes they hook up at work. The "usual" here is they usually hook up with those they share regular close proximity with. And, yes, I have had some drinks at a bar while discussing existentialism and other philosophical ideas. Many people won't be able to follow, but most people are dreadfully boring anyways.

 

[Timothy Bryce]

Sometimes people hook up at bars. Sometimes they hook up at work. The "usual" here is they usually hook up with those they share regular close proximity with. And, yes, I have had some drinks at a bar while discussing existentialism and other philosophical ideas. Many people won't be able to follow, but most people are dreadfully boring anyways.

What a horrible thing to say about "most people"!

And who are you to call the strong, beautiful and successful "dreadfully boring" and insinuate that they lack intelligence?! Wah!

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[Timothy Bryce]

For slave/master, sub/dom, sado/maso, they can be used rather effectively.

Ugh x2