The Teen Obesity Problem in America."

[Shadow Wolf]

Ugh x2

And here we see more of your judgement calls against those who don't like the same as you.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What a horrible thing to say about "most people"!

And who are you to call the strong, beautiful and successful "dreadfully boring" and insinuate that they lack intelligence?! Wah!

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Maybe you didn't quiet fully understand. Relationships are very complicated. I wouldn't be interested in someone who is the average American and scared of math, facts, and being smart. On the other hand, it's not unusual for my own intelligence to intimidate those of an average or below average intelligence. So, armed with deep, meaningful, insightful, and intelligent conversation, I have a way of "filtering out" those who wouldn't be good matches. If the conversation is sports, American Idol, and Facebook, I'll move on. But if someone is quoting Heidegger or Shakespeare, this is someone of interest. But, then again, shared interests is often how many relationships are started, by those who generally already share a regular close proximity.

 

[Timothy Bryce]

And here we see more of your judgement calls against those who don't like the same as you.

No - I get where you're coming from - it's just picturing it is a little gross.

 

[savagewind]

But you can say that about just anything, but being grossly over weight is caused by oneself, and adds a lot of pressure on the hospital system.

Car accidents are many times caused by negligence.

 

[Timothy Bryce]

Maybe you didn't quiet fully understand. Relationships are very complicated. I wouldn't be interested in someone who is the average American and scared of math, facts, and being smart. On the other hand, it's not unusual for my own intelligence to intimidate those of an average or below average intelligence. So, armed with deep, meaningful, insightful, and intelligent conversation, I have a way of "filtering out" those who wouldn't be good matches. If the conversation is sports, American Idol, and Facebook, I'll move on. But if someone is quoting Heidegger or Shakespeare, this is someone of interest. But, then again, shared interests is often how many relationships are started, by those who generally already share a regular close proximity.

The overwhelming majority of women I've met who have actually been smart, sensitive individuals who are genuinely interested in things like theater, literature, philosophy, etc are absolutely not turned on by intellectual pursuits; and the counterweight is the same - men and women hooking up or not based upon the first few minutes, or seconds, of chemistry they may or may not share is usually based on laws of the jungle.

Sexual impulses are almost exclusively primal and animistic. That's why this thread had become so antagonistic: there's no escaping the reality of some things and feelings were hurt (three posters in particular probably cried IRL lol). Does anyone really get sexual gratification from engaging in an intellectual pursuit? No one does.

 

[savagewind]

Sexual impulses are almost exclusively primal and animistic. ...... Does anyone really get sexual gratification from engaging in an intellectual pursuit? No one does.

Sexual gratification from engaging intellectually? I wouldn't know, but I think an intellectual engagement can certainly be gratifying physically. Thought is physical. Laughter is physical. Brains are actually physical. How can intelligence not be sexually appealing?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The overwhelming majority of women I've met who have actually been smart, sensitive individuals who are genuinely interested in things like theater, literature, philosophy, etc are absolutely not turned on by intellectual pursuits; and the counterweight is the same - men and women hooking up or not based upon the first few minutes, or seconds, of chemistry they may or may not share is usually based on laws of the jungle.

Sexual impulses are almost exclusively primal and animistic. That's why this thread had become so antagonistic: there's no escaping the reality of some things and feelings were hurt (three posters in particular probably cried IRL lol). Does anyone really get sexual gratification from engaging in an intellectual pursuit? No one does.

You seem to have missed the points that relationships are often started over a common interest, and frequently with those who are already in close proximity. This is basic sociology. If you hang out in bars, you probably won't meet those who would be intrigued by discussions and recitals of classic theatre or debates of philosophical positions. Generally people who are hook up in acting troupes, special interests clubs and groups, and other places where they would typically go and meet people who share similar interests. And the brain is the most powerful and sensitive sexual organ. Most people would probably not be aroused by pain, but some of my piercings hurt so good and just so right that they were an instant mega-turn on that I wanted to jump the bones of the guy who did it there on the spot.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

No - I get where you're coming from - it's just picturing it is a little gross.

And that is the judgemental side of the post. There are at least a few sexual activities that I am repulsed and grossed out by, but I'm not going "ugh" to those who do them or telling them I think their ways are disgusting.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Sexual impulses are almost exclusively primal and animistic.

Be as that may, sexual impulses are not the only things relationships are built upon, and if that is it, the relationship won't last.

 

[Timothy Bryce]

Be as that may, sexual impulses are not the only things relationships are built upon, and if that is it, the relationship won't last.

Well what are we really discussing here?

I'll address your above three posts in this single one here: are we talking about sex or relationships?

 

[Timothy Bryce]

Sexual gratification from engaging intellectually? I wouldn't know, but I think an intellectual engagement can certainly be gratifying physically. Thought is physical. Laughter is physical. Brains are actually physical. How can intelligence not be sexually appealing?

Because its deeper, more primal and animistic than what goes on in our frontal lobes.

Honestly, I think an enormous slew of people in this thread have really found themselves reaching due to a lot of personal offense taken and use of denial as a form of defense mechanism.

Hot people are hot. Not hot people are definitely not hot.

Deal wit' it

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Well what are we really discussing here?

Either one. Relationships are complicated and require more than sex, casual sex requires urge, passion, and still more things. I personally don't find people dressed in animal costumes to be attractive, but it is how some people get their kicks.

 

[savagewind]

Because its deeper, more primal and animistic than what goes on in our frontal lobes.

Honestly, I think an enormous slew of people in this thread have really found themselves reaching due to a lot of personal offense taken and use of denial as a form of defense mechanism.

Hot people are hot. Not hot people are definitely not hot.

Deal wit' it

I think we are saying muscles are not the only sexually attractive aspect of it. Being brainy is also.

 

[Watchmen]

Too bad much of this thread is drivel when it could have really been a good discussion about the disaster that is good in the US.

 

[Timothy Bryce]

Too bad much of this thread is drivel when it could have really been a good discussion about the disaster that is good in the US.

Exactly.

God forbid anyone dares to raise the point that encouraging obesity is a bad idea. Someone's feelings might get hurt!

 

[allfoak]

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

It is not just teens, children and all other ages are getting fatter by the year, and in just about all developed countries.

Our life styles have become more sedentary.
we eat poor out of balance diets.
we take little excercies in retation to what we eat.

As a result we suffer from weight related illnesses.
including... diabetes , heart desease, lung problems, skeletal diseases, and a large rise in cancers.

one strang effect has been the reallocation of clothing sizes in the usa compared to Europe and the Uk.

 

[savagewind]

Exactly.

God forbid anyone dares to raise the point that encouraging obesity is a bad idea. Someone's feelings might get hurt!

I do not think there was anyone who wrote that to encourage obesity is a bad idea.
People are writing that fat isn't always so easy to avoid like some people seem to think it is.

Obesity is to be discouraged, of course, but all the blame should not rest on the fat person.

 

[Jonathan Ainsley Bain]

NOTE! THIS THREAD WAS FORMERLY TITLED "FATTY, FATTY TWO BY FOUR . . ."

The other day I happened to get stuck in traffic when one of the local high schools was getting out for the day. Sitting there waiting for the kids to cross the intersection I couldn't help but be struck by how many of them were conspicuously overweight.

When I was in high school obesity was very uncommon. Very few of the students were considered fat, or even overweight. Most of us were pretty fit, and even if we weren't at least we didn't look unfit.

But today being overweight and even obese seems closer to the norm.

This is borne out by the stats on teen age obesity I came across.

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Being overweight is neither healthy nor attractive. So what's going on with teenagers these days?

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Dualist causes:

Firstly, junk food is way more freely available and marketed than ever before.

Secondly, first-world society is in a state of deep-seated dissonance;
the 'first-world-consensus-reality' is perpetuating an incorrect map of the way the world really is.
A clear example is how Clinton lost the election when it was widely accepted she had won it.
The dissonance is much deeper than that; and people fill the logical void with the nearest 'treat'.

 

[Timothy Bryce]

I do not think there was anyone who wrote that to encourage obesity is a bad idea.

I did. My second post on the first page of this thread:

I have a fatass aunty (thankfully not blood related) who is extremely passionate about hurtful comments about women specifically being criticized for their weight and how it can lead to bulimia/anorexia. She's always banging on about it and never hesitates to bring up the one time my drunken grandmother made a comment about how her daughter (and subsequently her granddaughter) should lose a little weight.

My aunt is also a stupid *****.

I think our culture's focus on preventing anorexia/bulimia (which are basically just euphemisms for pathological vanity) is completely steered in the wrong direction.

We do have a serious problem with body weight in the west: and it's obesity.

People shouldn't feel "proud" of being fat; they should feel ashamed enough that they feel compelled to improve themselves.

Done.

The thread was then derailed by hurt feelings and special snowflake syndrome.

So much for objective discussion.