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The testimony of the NT writers

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Eli G

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Left Coast said:
Oh gosh lol. The JWs are not known for their scholarship, Eli, I'm sorry to tell you. ;) I know quite a bit about it actually, since multiple family members of mine have been JWs.
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It's Ok. Christians in the first century neither.
Did you check our website? It is jw .org /en No adds and safe to visit.
Actually, it is the website that is translated in most languages of the net. Surprised?
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
lukethethird said:
I read the epistle, what was Peter a witness to?
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I know, even if you read it there is practically nothing supporting the claims of the Christians here. It is pretty much a red herring. They may be using a black and white fallacy of "Peter was a witness, therefore they were all witnesses". That of course does not follow. And second, the work appears to be pseudonymous.
 
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Eli G said:
It's Ok. Christians in the first century neither.
Did you check our website? It is jw .org /en No adds and safe to visit.
Actually, it is the website that is translated in most languages of the net. Surprised?
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Who told you that? Was it perhaps the JW's themselves? But number of translations is not evidence. It is not a reason to trust a site. When it comes to sheer bulk being translated Wikipedia would beat their pants off.
 
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Eli G

Well-Known Member
Left Coast said:
Lol I've read articles from your website many times. I just told you, multiple family members of mine have been JWs.

When did you last read a book or article from a non-Christian historian about the Bible?
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Nice. I see you didn't get what I added to my post.

Our official website is the site most translated in the whole net; more than the Vatican official website and the one of the NASA. Amazing, right?
... to be "not known for their scholarship" it's quiet a lot :)

More than one thousand languages!!! It takes a lot of ingenuity for such a feat, don't you think? Or maybe just having the Creator of the Universe on our side.
 
Left Coast

Left Coast

This Is Water
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Premium Member
Eli G said:
Nice. I see you didn't get what I added to my post.

Our official website is the site most translated in the whole net; more than the Vatican official website of the NASA website. Amazing, right?
... to be "not known for their scholarship" it's quiet a lot :)
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I have no idea if that claim is actually true or not. I suspect it isn't. And popularity is not scholarship.
 
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Eli G

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Left Coast said:
(...)When did you last read a book or article from a non-Christian historian about the Bible?
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Oh! About that ... It is a good question. If you visit our website you'll notice we got quotes from all kind of non-Christian historians and scholars. Amazing, right?
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Eli G said:
Oh! About that ... It is a good question. If you visit our website you'll notice we got quotes from all kind of non-Christian historians and scholars. Amazing, right?
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No. Do they quote them properly? Is it in context? Do they have a link to the original source?

Do you know what it is so important. Because one can even name a source but quote it out of context. I can abuse the Bible that way. I can quote a part of a verse to "prove" that there is no God and if I do not tell you which verse I quoted you would probably not be able to refute me.

"There is no God". Source the Bible. That means that there is no God.

Now that is a very very bad argument. But what I posted did come from the Bible. I doubt if you could find it.
 
lukethethird

lukethethird

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Subduction Zone said:
I know, even if you read it there is practically nothing supporting the claims of the Christians here. It is pretty much a red herring. They may be using a black and white fallacy of "Peter was a witness, therefore they were all witnesses". That of course does not follow. And second, the work appears to be pseudonymous.
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Yes, the work is pseudonymous, and it reads along the same lines as another epistle writer, Paul. They preach of a Christ that will soon be revealed to all.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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Kenny said:
dodge :D
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No. Kenny, if you post a claim you need a reliable source. We did this once before. I will not do it again unless you find actual scholars that support you and you provide links for your claims. As it is all I have to say is "I don't believe you".
 
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Subduction Zone

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lukethethird said:
Yes, the work is pseudonymous, and it reads along the same lines as another epistle writer, Paul. They preach of a Christ that will soon be revealed to all.
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That was a common belief originally because one of the lines from more than one of the Gospels is Jesus predicting that he will come back while some of the original twelve are still alive. You will see all sorts of spin by apologists when it comes to that verse.
 
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