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The Theory of Evolution is supported by the evidence.

rafi

Rafi
I am open to the idea of theistic evolution as long as there is not just one common ancestor for all species and kinds.
So, in reality, you're actually not open to the idea of theistic evolution at all. Theistic evolution asserts that Darwin's ideas on evolution are correct while still maintaining that a "god" started it all. To make it clear, theistic evolution says that there is one common ancestor. What you sound like is a creationist, correct me if I'm wrong. But try not to say you believe in something when its principles show you clearly don't.
 

The Voice of Reason

Doctor of Thinkology
So, in reality, you're actually not open to the idea of theistic evolution at all. Theistic evolution asserts that Darwin's ideas on evolution are correct while still maintaining that a "god" started it all. To make it clear, theistic evolution says that there is one common ancestor. What you sound like is a creationist, correct me if I'm wrong. But try not to say you believe in something when its principles show you clearly don't.

Well, rafi - if he can fake actually trying to learn something, it makes it easier to lie to his God.

Lying to us is easy. Pulling the wool over God's eyes is a much tougher gig.
 

Danmac

Well-Known Member
So, in reality, you're actually not open to the idea of theistic evolution at all. Theistic evolution asserts that Darwin's ideas on evolution are correct while still maintaining that a "god" started it all. To make it clear, theistic evolution says that there is one common ancestor. What you sound like is a creationist, correct me if I'm wrong. But try not to say you believe in something when its principles show you clearly don't.

The Bible states that man was formed from the ground. So does evolution. In that sense evolution might be true. If true we evolved immediately into a man, and all other kinds evolved immediately into their kinds. Each kind has its own ancestor. No common ancestor for all species.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
The Bible states that man was formed from the ground. So does evolution. In that sense evolution might be true. If true we evolved immediately into a man, and all other kinds evolved immediately into their kinds. Each kind has its own ancestor. No common ancestor for all species.
We're really not interested in your bizarre religious superstitions. This thread is about the scientific evidence for--or against--ToE, one of the most important theories in the history of science. Got any? Interested in hearing about any? Or does evidence not enter into your world?
 

Danmac

Well-Known Member
We're really not interested in your bizarre religious superstitions. This thread is about the scientific evidence for--or against--ToE, one of the most important theories in the history of science. Got any? Interested in hearing about any? Or does evidence not enter into your world?

I am offering my interpretation of the evidence. You no likey?
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
The Bible states that man was formed from the ground. So does evolution.
No, evolution does not say anything of the sort.
Showing once again a profound ignorance in the actual Theory of Evolution.
In that sense evolution might be true. If true we evolved immediately into a man, and all other kinds evolved immediately into their kinds. Each kind has its own ancestor. No common ancestor for all species.
And again, attempting to fit your preconceived notions of Biblical creationism into a poor imitation of science.
:facepalm:
 

rafi

Rafi
The Bible states that man was formed from the ground. So does evolution.
Why do you keep saying that? No matter how many times you say it, it's not going to be true. Simply stating a made up fact with no citation also makes your argument appear weaker. Your interpretation of evolution is misinformed, allow me to help.
Human Evolution
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
I am offering my interpretation of the evidence. You no likey?

What is an interpretation of evidence? Science isn't about interpretation, Danmac. Now what evidence exactly do you think points to the existence of an undefined, indistinguishable called a "kind," and in what way?
 

DeitySlayer

President of Chindia
The Bible states that man was formed from the ground. So does evolution.

:facepalm: Seriously man.

I'll lay it out for you one more time, since I've only been on this forum for about 2 days. Everyone else is probably sick to death correcting you on this.

Evolution states that species will change over time due to environmental pressures, which will select for beneficial mutations. Evolution makes no statement about the origin of life. That theory is called abiogenesis. Further, evolution 'claims' that man evolved from a common ancestor we share with apes. Not 'formed from the ground'.
 

Danmac

Well-Known Member
:facepalm: Seriously man.

I'll lay it out for you one more time, since I've only been on this forum for about 2 days. Everyone else is probably sick to death correcting you on this.

Evolution states that species will change over time due to environmental pressures, which will select for beneficial mutations. Evolution makes no statement about the origin of life. That theory is called abiogenesis. Further, evolution 'claims' that man evolved from a common ancestor we share with apes. Not 'formed from the ground'.
The amoeba poofed out of thin air ? Science does know how the first amoeba came about don't they?
 

Tristesse

Well-Known Member
The amoeba poofed out of thin air ? Science does know how the first amoeba came about don't they?

No one is proposing that it poofed out of thin air. You're the one proposing, "poof out of thin air." But science doesn't have all of the answers, but because something is unknown doesn't mean that you're justified in making something up. I would much rather take an, "I don't know" than a "magic man did it." Because saying I don't know doesn't stop you from investigating the true nature of the situation.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
The amoeba poofed out of thin air ? Science does know how the first amoeba came about don't they?

If you are interested in the subject of abiogenesis, please start a thread. This one is about evolution. I'm assuming you have nothing to say on that subject?

Now, Danmac, did you not know this, or did you know it and not care? That is, are you ignorant, or dishonest?

btw, the first living creature was definitely NOT an amoeba. Do you often find that utter and total ignorance is an effective way to refute a well-established scientific theory?

You're right. All biologists are morons.
 
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tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
The amoeba poofed out of thin air ? Science does know how the first amoeba came about don't they?

:facepalm:
I am sure you meant to say the first self replicating molecules or perhaps Ur-cells.
But that would be abiogenesis, a biochemical event. Not evolutionary biology.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
The Story of Evolution
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Once upon a time, (a few hundred million years ago), there lived a little one-celledanimal
called "Amoeba". No one really knew where Amoeba had come from.They say his Fairy God-Mother named "Mutation"had created him.Certainly he could not havecome from God, because after all, atheists mustdisbelieve inGod as a matter of religious faith. No, the Fairy God-Mother named "Mutation" must have waved her magic wand and "poof!",Amoeba came intoexistence.

As I was saying, are you ignorant, or dishonest?

Wait, isn't magic poofing your hypothesis? Aren't you the one arguing that God waved His magic breath and literally poofed two of each of a vague, undefined category called a "kind?"

You seem fascinated by abiogenesis. I agree, it's an interesting, although speculative area. I suggest you start a thread to discuss it.

As for ToE, we can assume that the first living thing was magically poofed into existence by your God and still have the entire ToE.
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
The Story of Evolution
al035015.gif
Once upon a time, (a few hundred million years ago), there lived a little one-celledanimal
called "Amoeba". No one really knew where Amoeba had come from.They say his Fairy God-Mother named "Mutation"had created him.Certainly he could not havecome from God, because after all, atheists mustdisbelieve inGod as a matter of religious faith. No, the Fairy God-Mother named "Mutation" must have waved her magic wand and "poof!",Amoeba came intoexistence.


  1. Forum rules require that you source your copy and past to avoid plagiarism. The Story of Evolution
  2. Thank you for another contribution to The dishonesty of creationists.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The Bible states that man was formed from the ground. So does evolution. In that sense evolution might be true. If true we evolved immediately into a man, and all other kinds evolved immediately into their kinds. Each kind has its own ancestor. No common ancestor for all species.

Evolution does not address origin of species. It addresses common descent brought about by a common ancestor (such as prokaryotes) or ancestral gene pool. -NM-
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The Story of Evolution


al035015.gif
Once upon a time, (a few hundred million years ago), there lived a little one-celledanimal
called "Amoeba". No one really knew where Amoeba had come from.They say his Fairy God-Mother named "Mutation"had created him.Certainly he could not havecome from God, because after all, atheists mustdisbelieve inGod as a matter of religious faith. No, the Fairy God-Mother named "Mutation" must have waved her magic wand and "poof!",Amoeba came intoexistence.

Mutation are changes in the DNA sequence of a cells genome and is a causation brought about by a number of factors. It did not create the organism itself. :facepalm:
 

The Voice of Reason

Doctor of Thinkology
  1. Forum rules require that you source your copy and past to avoid plagiarism. The Story of Evolution
  2. Thank you for another contribution to The dishonesty of creationists.

For a quick peek into the world of fundamentalism, check this out (from the same site that Danmac got his "Story of Evolution"):
Contemporary Christian Music

We believe that Contemporary Christian Music, or “CCM”, had its historic roots in Rock-n-Roll, whore-house music, and other sensual, sexual, and worldly music. CCM music is therefore wicked, worldly music with some “Christian” words added to make the music seem “Christian”.

What We Believe
 
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