The Theory of Evolution is supported by the evidence.

[Danmac]

I know a lot more about it than you do. I didn't have to run back to AIG to find out that you actually agree with speciation, thereby making 5 pages of your own argument wrong. This is false. They start with the conclusion, and go looking for any evidence that supports it. I can prove this to you, if you doubt me.

They are no more guilty of a presupposition than are evolutionists and you know it. You have the law on your side. That is the real difference. We have a gag order in place. That is a fact.

 

[The_Evelyonian]

They are no more guilty of a presupposition than are evolutionists and you know it. You have the law on your side. That is the real difference. We have a gag order in place. That is a fact.

 

[Danmac]

Except I quoted your entire post first. Regardless, I deleted it because I thought it was kind of petty.

And no, that's not "how we do it". That's how creationists do it. That's why when you ask somehow who accepts evolution what advances have been made recently all they have to do is go look at National Geographic for a few seconds, whereas when you put the same question to a creationist they just sit there with a blank look on their face before changing the subject.

The difference is in the interpretation of the evidence. That is the bottom line. Atheism controls public education. Creationism is against the law.

 

[The_Evelyonian]

The difference is in the interpretation of the evidence. That is the bottom line. Atheism controls public education. Creationism is against the law.

I'm about to call Poe's Law on you. I really am.

 

[sonofskeptish]

There's nothing stopping creationists from preaching scientific retardation... except in science class.

 

[Danmac]

So, Danmac, only one non-argument, other than that you agree with ToE?

I am open to the idea of theistic evolution as long as there is not just one common ancestor for all species and kinds. The Bible does say that man was formed from the ground. So does evolution.

 

[Autodidact]

They are no more guilty of a presupposition than are evolutionists and you know it.

After I prove that you are wrong, will you have the honesty to withdraw this lie? I doubt it.

You have the law on your side.

Well, there is a legal finding that intelligent design is not science, is that what you mean?

That is the real difference. We have a gag order in place. That is a fact.

No, that is a lie. The real difference is that one is science, and one is not.

Refresh my memory: Science--are you in favor, or opposed?

 

[Autodidact]

I am open to the idea of theistic evolution as long as there is not just one common ancestor for all species and kinds. The Bible does say that man was formed from the ground. So does evolution.

So I take it that you have no other objection to ToE then?

 

[Autodidact]

The difference is in the interpretation of the evidence. That is the bottom line. Atheism controls public education. Creationism is against the law.

Have you ever posted anything that's actually true in your life? If creationism is against the law, why aren't you in jail? I think what you mean is, it is against the law to teach religion in American public schools, and creationism is religion, not science. For the 100th time, evolution is not atheism, and atheism is not evolution. Are you dense, or why do I have to tell you the same thing over and over?

 

[sonofskeptish]

I am open to the idea of theistic evolution as long as there is not just one common ancestor for all species and kinds. The Bible does say that man was formed from the ground. So does evolution.

Translation: I am open to the idea of theistic evolution as long as it does not undermine my belief that there is not just one common ancestor for all species and kinds. I need to believe this inspite of what might be true.

 

[Danmac]

There's nothing stopping creationists from preaching scientific retardation... except in science class.

Thank God for private schools

 

[Autodidact]

Anyway, back to the subject of the thread, evidence. Danmac: Got any?

 

[Autodidact]

Thank God for private schools

Danmac: Start a thread. This one is about the evidence for--and against--ToE. Do you have any? Because I've got a lot, and am happy to start presenting it any time. You?

 

[painted wolf]

They don't need to do science. They only need to interpret it correctly for the evolutionists that form conclusions that support their position.

Ah, science by revelation... who needs to do any work when you can just make ****e up? :biglaugh:

So which is it... you don't have to do any science the 'evil' ones will do it for you, you do science but the 'evil' ones stop you from actually spreading the gospel, or you are not allowed to do science by the 'evil' ones.

Now that's dishonesty.

Amen to that... I've never seen a more dishonest poster... you really outdo yourself.

wa:do

 

[DeitySlayer]

What, so the DNA on the knife is only evidence that person A held it because we want it to be? Evidence is evidence. Non-sentient evidence specifically, because it is unable to have an opinion and unable to lie. Are we to belive, therefore, that the progressive 'branches' of genomes and fossil forms, are purely coincidental? Or that God actively tried to deceive us?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

The difference is in the interpretation of the evidence. That is the bottom line. Atheism controls public education. Creationism is against the law.

You mean, our correct interpretation of the evidence with which we have made successful predictions and met the criteria required for the establishing of valid scientific theory?

Meanwhile, creationism has "well, it could have evolved, but God could also of done it". Sorry, that's not an "interpretation" of the evidence - that's applying qualities to the evidence that do not exist.

Also, "atheism controls public education"? Are you insane? You do realize that practically all religious schools and universities teach evolution, right? There are thousands of theistic scientists who work in and accept evolution.

There is a reason that teaching creationism in schools is against the law: because it's based solely on religious bias, nothing more.

 

[tumbleweed41]

You have the law on your side. That is the real difference. We have a gag order in place. That is a fact.

Yes, the Laws of Nature support science.
And the Scientific Method is your 'gag order'.

The difference is in the interpretation of the evidence.

Yes. Biologists use the evidence to come to the conclusion.
Creationism uses the conclusion to find the evidence.

That is the bottom line. Atheism controls public education.

Again, you are being dishonest.

Creationism is against the law.

Only the Laws of Nature. Thus preventing it from being taught in Science Classrooms.

I am open to the idea of theistic evolution as long as there is not just one common ancestor for all species and kinds. The Bible does say that man was formed from the ground. So does evolution.

Thank you for this prime example of using the Conclusion (Bible) to come to the evidence. Showing once again the non-scientific methods of Creation Pseudoscience.

 

[Wotan]

Ah, science by revelation... who needs to do any work when you can just make ****e up? :biglaugh:

So which is it... you don't have to do any science the 'evil' ones will do it for you, you do science but the 'evil' ones stop you from actually spreading the gospel, or you are not allowed to do science by the 'evil' ones.


Amen to that... I've never seen a more dishonest poster... you really outdo yourself.

wa:do

DanMac just an observation and some facts for you to ponder.

I have not been around all THAT long (at least in THIS incarnation) but long enough to note something about PW. Her scientific training is reflected in her posts. Rarely - like almost NEVER - do you see any emotion in her words. She just presents facts and an occasional comment but almost no emotional fire.

For her to refer to someone as "dishonest" - just about NEVER happens. Even when justified.

Think about that.:yes:

 

[The Voice of Reason]

The Bible does say that man was formed from the ground.

Then, wouldn't you expect to find some dirt in our DNA?

So does evolution.

Uh, no. Yet one more piece of evidence that you have absolutely no idea what evolution is or how it works.

 

[The Voice of Reason]

Thank God for private schools

An odd statement.

What you meant to way was: "Thank God for religious schools".

Private schools that are not affiliated with religious institutions teach evolution, not creationism.

We have a gag order in place. That is a fact.

What you are gagging on is your self inflicted ignorance. That is a fact.