The Theory of Evolution is supported by the evidence.

[McBell]

If he could collect all of the atheists arrears he could.

:biglaugh:
...atheist arrears...
:biglaugh:

 

[Danmac]

:biglaugh:
...atheist arrears...
:biglaugh:

He will settle for your soul.

 

[tumbleweed41]

He will settle for your soul.

Can we get off the theological soul possesing clap-trap and back on subject.

This thread is to discuss the Theory of Evolution. It is NOT about atheism or whether God created all things. In fact, for the purposes of this thread, let's all participants agree that God exists and created all things. The question we are addressing here, and the only question, is whether God created all living creatures and plants on earth in the way set out in the Theory of Evolution (ToE.) Even more, we're going to talk about the evidence for that theory, and why modern Biology accepts it and is based on it.

 

[DarkSun]

He will settle for your soul.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urlTBBKTO68

 

[painted wolf]

If you didn't tithe so much, you'd be able to buy some of that equipment yourself.
Maybe God could take a short term paycut at the offering plate, just to get the equipment?

Are you kidding? Creationists are better funded than biologists any day!

It takes next to no fancy equipment to do most biological research. The lab I worked for funded four years of research for less than a tenth of of the Discovery Institutes yearly budget.

Once again we see creationists bearing false witness ...
None prevents them from doing science but themselves. Its easier to play the martyr that way.

wa:do

 

[Danmac]

Are you kidding? Creationists are better funded than biologists any day!

It takes next to no fancy equipment to do most biological research. The lab I worked for funded four years of research for less than a tenth of of the Discovery Institutes yearly budget.

Once again we see creationists bearing false witness ...
None prevents them from doing science but themselves. Its easier to play the martyr that way.

wa:do

They don't need to do science. They only need to interpret it correctly for the evolutionists that form conclusions that support their position. Now that's dishonesty.

 

[Autodidact]

well at least you didn't misinterpret me as did a couple of others. Now I understand some of the far out biblical interpretations you unbelievers come up with. It's very entertaining actually.

So basically you have nothing to say about evolution? No objection other than one that is undefined, unfalsifiable and has no evidence to support it?

 

[DarkSun]

They don't need to do science. They only need to interpret it correctly for the evolutionists that form conclusions that support their position. Now that's dishonesty.

 

[Autodidact]

They don't need to do science. They only need to interpret it correctly for the evolutionists that form conclusions that support their position. Now that's dishonesty.

Danmac: Instead of slandering hard-working scientists who are trying to advance human knowledge, how about addressing the subject? Or do you have too little knowledge to do that?

So far, your "kinds" notion has fallen flat. You can't tell one kind from another, so you really can't object on that basis. Got anything else?

If not, I'm more than happy to discuss the evidence that your Magic Poofing Hypothesis is not possible.

Tell you what. Let's take an example. Are all beetles (300,000 + and counting species) a single kind, or is each species of beetles a kind?

 

[The Voice of Reason]

If he could collect all of the atheists arrears he could.

He will settle for your soul.

Well, call me a skeptic, but I was under the impression that he could have all of our money AND our souls, if he really wanted them.

Is it possible that he doesn't really want either the money or the souls?

 

[Autodidact]

Danmac: Try to focus. This is not a thread about atheism or religion. We're all agreeing, for the purpose of this thread, that your God created all things. Try to bear that in mind from one page to the next. Thank you.

 

[Autodidact]

They don't need to do science.

Good to know you agree. So for science we'll look to actual scientists.

I forget: Do you agree that the scientific method works, or not?

 

[Danmac]

So basically you have nothing to say about evolution? No objection other than one that is undefined, unfalsifiable and has no evidence to support it?

You don't understand how creation science works do you? They use the same evidence that any scientist would use. They merely look at the data and form a conclusion. It just happens to be a different conclusion that evolutionists draw. A correct one I may add.

 

[McBell]

He will settle for your soul.

Tough.
He can't have either.

 

[Danmac]

Says it all, really.

Just pull out whatever portion you would like to put your own little spin on it. Is that how evolutionists do it?

 

[Autodidact]

You don't understand how creation science works do you?

I know a lot more about it than you do. I didn't have to run back to AIG to find out that you actually agree with speciation, thereby making 5 pages of your own argument wrong.

They use the same evidence that any scientist would use. They merely look at the data and form a conclusion. It just happens to be a different conclusion that evolutionists draw. A correct one I may add.

This is false. They start with the conclusion, and go looking for any evidence that supports it. I can prove this to you, if you doubt me.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Just pull out whatever portion you would like to put your own little spin on it. Is that how evolutionists do it?

Except I quoted your entire post first. Regardless, I deleted it because I thought it was kind of petty.

And no, that's not "how we do it". That's how creationists do it. That's why when you ask somehow who accepts evolution what advances have been made recently all they have to do is go look at National Geographic for a few seconds, whereas when you put the same question to a creationist they just sit there with a blank look on their face before changing the subject.

 

[Autodidact]

So, Danmac, only one non-argument, other than that you agree with ToE?

 

[McBell]

You don't understand how creation science works do you?

Sinc eit is nothing more than a fraudulent name intended to deceive the choir...

They use the same evidence that any scientist would use.

Except all the stuff they toss out and or ignore because it hurts their preconceived answers.

They merely look at the data and form a conclusion.

Oh no they don't.
First they decide exactly what they want the conclusion to be.
Second, they twist anything that contradicts their conclusion around and make it look as though it agrees with their conclusion.
third, they toss out and ignore everything they cannot twist around.
Fourth, they lie and claim they are scientists in order to fool the choir.

It just happens to be a different conclusion that evolutionists draw.

That is because they are not letting the evidence dictate the results.
They take the result they want and force the evidence to reflect it.

A correct one I may add.

You go right ahead and add to the lies.

You have proven you are most excellent at it.
I am sure your god must be proud.

 

[Autodidact]

Again, just to recap:

Danmac agrees with the entire ToE, except that he believes it is limited to something called a kind.

Science supporters: What is a kind?
Danmac: I have no idea.
SS: How do you recognize a kind?
Danmac: Got me.
SS: How do you tell one kind from another?
D: No clue.
SS: How many kinds are there?
D: I'm stumped.
SS: How would you go about falsifying your hypothesis?
D: Umm...
SS: Do you have any evidence to support your hypothesis?
D: Let me get back to you on that.

But he's sure that it's right, anyway, based purely on the evidence.