The Trinity

[Desert Snake]

There is much you must still learn brother.You stated Eve was was not created on the sixth day when ,in fact, it states in the holy scriptures that both man and woman were created on the sixth day.

I never said that.

 

[Nada]

I never said that.

Please accept my deepest apologies.I mixed you up with Aman777.Y'all just happen to have the exact same profile pic.If you go to this forum:What is the Significance of Adams and Eves Nakedness? You will see this to be true.Its on the first page.Aman777

 

[Desert Snake]

Please accept my deepest apologies.I mixed you up with Aman777.Y'all just happen to have the exact same profile pic.If you go to this forum:What is the Significance of Adams and Eves Nakedness? You will see this to be true.Its on the first page.Aman777

Yikes I'll change my avatar.

No need to use the same one, I have my own avatars.

 

[Katzpur]

33,000 trinity religions

1 JW religion

There are other non-trinitarian Christians out there, kjw47.

 

[Katzpur]

Yes many think that Jehovahs Witnesses is a religion.Jehovahs Witnesses practice true Christianity, as did the 1st century Christians, who followed Christ.Thats what separates the JW's from all the other so called Christian groups.

As a Mormon, I could say exactly the same thing.

 

[Nada]

As a Mormon, I could say exactly the same thing.

Im not sure of that brother.Christ or God never speaks of planet Kolob in the holy scriptures.

 

[Katzpur]

Im not sure of that brother.Christ or God never speaks of planet Kolob in the holy scriptures.

There is no such thing as a planet by the name of Kolob. As for a star, He does mention such a star in my holy scriptures.

(And for the gazillionth time, sister, I am not your "brother." Please stop referring to me as that.)

 

[Ouroboros]

Yes many think that Jehovahs Witnesses is a religion.Jehovahs Witnesses practice true Christianity, as did the 1st century Christians, who followed Christ.Thats what separates the JW's from all the other so called Christian groups.No trinity,no idols,no false holidays,no joining wars,no voting etc..

So JW's are Christians. They just call themselves Jehovahs Witnesses to separate themselves from the rest.They declare Gods name and are witnesses to His Word.Isaiah 43:10 “You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah,
“Yes, my servant whom I have chosen,
So that you may know and have faith in me
And understand that I am the same One.
Before me no God was formed,
And after me there has been none.

Are Jehovah

The church I belonged to also claimed to be the true Christians and practice the correct, original Christian faith according to the 1st century Christians.

The church was an evangelical Word of Faith movement church, which many other "true" Christians claim is heretical and false.

My experience with Christians and their churches and denominations is that each and everyone claims to have the true and original faith, and they all have their excuses, reasons, explanation, etc to back it up with. Yet, all have different views.

Now, as an outsider looking in, the Christian church is divided and broken up in so many factions that it only works as a testimony for no one having the truth.

 

[Nada]

There is no such thing as a planet by the name of Kolob. As for a star, He does mention such a star in my holy scriptures.

(And for the gazillionth time, sister, I am not your "brother." Please stop referring to me as that.)

Thats my point.One is God inspired and the other is fabricated with additional books.There is no "heavenly messenger named Moroni" in the holy scriptures inspired by God.The only two angels ever called by name are Gabriel and Michael.The Papyri Smith got his hands on were not from God but Egyptian.They have been translated and it has nothing to do with any book of Abraham.You can actually see the translations here at this link.


Joseph Smith Papyri - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Nada]

The church I belonged to also claimed to be the true Christians and practice the correct, original Christian faith according to the 1st century Christians.

The church was an evangelical Word of Faith movement church, which many other "true" Christians claim is heretical and false.

My experience with Christians and their churches and denominations is that each and everyone claims to have the true and original faith, and they all have their excuses, reasons, explanation, etc to back it up with. Yet, all have different views.

Now, as an outsider looking in, the Christian church is divided and broken up in so many factions that it only works as a testimony for no one having the truth.

Im sorry to hear about your experience with false religion.My family used to be Catholics.It was not until we all saw what Catholicism, and other religions, were doing,and not in accordance with what the holy scriptures actually says,that my family started studying with the JW's.Those that are part of this world are not part of Gods arrangement.

James 4:4You adulterous people,[a] don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.

 

[Katzpur]

Thats my point.One is God inspired and the other is fabricated with additional books.

In your opinion. There is nowhere in the Bible where God said He was ever through speaking to us. If you want to tell Him to shut up, that's your problem.

There is no "heavenly messenger named Moroni" in the holy scriptures inspired by God.The only two angels ever called by name are Gabriel and Michael.The Papyri Smith got his hands on were not from God but Egyptian.They have been translated and it has nothing to do with any book of Abraham.You can actually see the translations here at this link.

In your opinion, sister.

 

[Nada]

In your opinion. There is nowhere in the Bible where God said He was ever through speaking to us. If you want to tell Him to shut up, that's your problem.

In your opinion, sister.

"Tell God to shut up" Wow! your speech is pretty bad and your conduct is not Christian like for sure.I think this forum and site is not good for you.It is damaging your spirituality.Your conduct is that of a worldly one.Another thing,I didn't know you were a sister.For some reason I assumed you were a brother.I know now by your sarcastic remark though.You should take it down a notch and think about how you conduct yourself with others.

 

[Katzpur]

"Tell God to shut up" Wow! your speech is pretty bad and your conduct is not Christian like for sure.

Telling God to shut up is, in effect, exactly what you're doing. And your conduct is far less "Christian" than mine is.

I think this forum and site is not good for you.It is damaging your spirituality.

I'll be the judge of that, sister.

Another thing,I didn't know you were a sister.For some reason I assumed you were a brother.I know now by your sarcastic remark though.

That's because you don't listen. I've told you on multiple occasions, and I'd be willing to guess this time is not going to be the last time.

You should take it down a notch and think about how you conduct yourself with others.

Yeah, obviously, I should follow your esteemed example.

 

[Nada]

Telling God to shut up is, in effect, exactly what you're doing. And your conduct is far less "Christian" than mine is.

I'll be the judge of that, sister.

That's because you don't listen. I've told you on multiple occasions, and I'd be willing to guess this time is not going to be the last time.

Yeah, obviously, I should follow your esteemed example.

Control yourself.Please sister act right.You are letting everyone see how you really are and its not good.You are cursing and saying very bad things to me.You have let satan creep into your head and you are speaking very badly.Please try to conduct yourself accordingly.Its alright.Just carry on and take a break.Go get some water or a bite to eat.Have a beer or some wine.Its ok.Everything will be alright.Just please do not let yourself say anything else bad.

 

[Katzpur]

Control yourself.Please sister act right.You are letting everyone see how you really are and its not good.You are cursing and saying very bad things to me.You have let satan creep into your head and you are speaking very badly.Please try to conduct yourself accordingly.Its alright.Just carry on and take a break.Go get some water or a bite to eat.Have a beer or some wine.Its ok.Everything will be alright.Just please do not let yourself say anything else bad.

I think everybody here knows me pretty well, and I actually have very few enemies on the forum. They're also starting to get to know you, heaven help them.

 

[Nada]

I think everybody here knows me pretty well, and I actually have very few enemies on the forum. They're also starting to get to know you, heaven help them.

Be nice now.You are letting yourself get carried away again.Just let it go.You are digging the hole deeper.

 

[Katzpur]

Be nice now.You are letting yourself get carried away again.Just let it go.You are digging the hole deeper.

Dearest Bible Student, since I hold you in such high esteem and know that being right means more to you than pretty much anything in the world, I am going to discontinue all communication with you on this thread. Please, be my guest and have the last word.

 

[Ouroboros]

Im sorry to hear about your experience with false religion.

No one in the church believed it was false, neither did I.

We all believed that we were complete 100% authentic Christians. My point is, you can't know if your religion is the 100% correct Christian faith based on your own opinion only, and there's not enough documents to really give us a proper idea what the original Christians really were.

My family used to be Catholics.It was not until we all saw what Catholicism, and other religions, were doing,and not in accordance with what the holy scriptures actually says,that my family started studying with the JW's.Those that are part of this world are not part of Gods arrangement.

Our church considered JW's to be false and deluded by Satan. We most definitely did not believe we were part of this world.

James 4:4You adulterous people,[a] don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.[/B]

Our church wasn't a friend with the world. Not one bit. It stood up for Biblical views and beliefs in society and fought against teaching evolution in school, and much more. We also did a lot of mission work in Russia and Europe.

I'm quite certain anyone in my old church would consider you a heretic and a follower of a false Christian version.

Too sad, isn't it? Every Christian consider himself to be the true believer and thinks that everyone else is false.

 

[InChrist]

So JW's are Christians. They just call themselves Jehovahs Witnesses to separate themselves from the rest.

I have always thought it speaks very loudly that the Watchtower teaches its members to exalt the name Jehovah, contrary to the gospel message of the NT. If JW's are really true Christians then why is the name of Christ not the name you are sharing with others?

[FONT=&quot]In whose name should we meet together ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( Matt. 18:20, 1 Cor. 5:4 )[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Demons are subject to whose name ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( Luke 10:17, Acts 16:18 )[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Repentance and forgiveness should be preached in whose name ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( Luke 24:47 )[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]In whose name are you to believe and receive the forgiveness of sins?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( John 1:12, 3:16, Acts 10: 43, 1 John 3: 23, 5: 13 )[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]By whose name and no other, do we obtain salvation ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( Acts 4: 12 )[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Whose name should be invoked as we bring our petitions to God in prayer ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( John 14:13, 14 ; 15:16 ; 16: 23,24 )[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]In whose name is the Holy Spirit sent ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( John 14: 26 )[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Whose name and authority was invoked by the disciples in healing the sick and lame?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( Acts 3: 16; 4: 7-10, 30 )[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Whose name did Paul tell us to call upon ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( 1 Cor. 1: 2 )[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Whose name was Paul willing to die for?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](Acts 21:13)[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Whose name is above every name ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( Eph. 1: 21, Philippians 2: 9-11 )[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Whose witnesses are we called to be ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( Acts 1: 8 )[/FONT]

 

[Nada]

I have always thought it speaks very loudly that the Watchtower teaches its members to exalt the name Jehovah, contrary to the gospel message of the NT. If JW's are really true Christians then why is the name of Christ not the name you are sharing with others?

[FONT=&quot]In whose name should we meet together ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( Matt. 18:20, 1 Cor. 5:4 )[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Demons are subject to whose name ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( Luke 10:17, Acts 16:18 )[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Repentance and forgiveness should be preached in whose name ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( Luke 24:47 )[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]In whose name are you to believe and receive the forgiveness of sins?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( John 1:12, 3:16, Acts 10: 43, 1 John 3: 23, 5: 13 )[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]By whose name and no other, do we obtain salvation ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( Acts 4: 12 )[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Whose name should be invoked as we bring our petitions to God in prayer ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( John 14:13, 14 ; 15:16 ; 16: 23,24 )[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]In whose name is the Holy Spirit sent ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( John 14: 26 )[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Whose name and authority was invoked by the disciples in healing the sick and lame?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( Acts 3: 16; 4: 7-10, 30 )[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Whose name did Paul tell us to call upon ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( 1 Cor. 1: 2 )[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Whose name was Paul willing to die for?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](Acts 21:13)[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Whose name is above every name ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( Eph. 1: 21, Philippians 2: 9-11 )[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Whose witnesses are we called to be ?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]( Acts 1: 8 )[/FONT]

Of course JW's preach about Jesus.Jesus is the way and the one who died for us.Jesus is not God though.Jehovah God is the Almighty,not Jesus.So it is Jehovahs name that is declared.

Luke 18:19 "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone.

Psalm 83:18 King James Bible
That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.


Exodus 6:3 King James Bible
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.



Isaiah 26:4 King James Bible
Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength:

Isaiah 12:2 King James Bible
Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.


Jesus is not God.Thats why.