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The truth about 9/11

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Saying that a person is crazy in order to discredit their testimony is a very outdated and squalid trick.
Buying into discredited testimony isn't exactly an example of refined critical thinking skills.
When I talk about Politics, people say I'm retarded too.
Strangely, I've yet to hear something like that directed at myself. People may not agree with me, but I've never been told my perception is mentally challenged. In you own case, perhaps, just perhaps, there is some truth to these sentiments.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Could you put one refuting that she was found mentally unfit to stand trial when she was charged with helping Iraq during the Gulf War?
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You really scare me. Susan Lindauer is a pacifist and an anti-war activist. She always was. So it was normal that she did any thing to prevent the gulf war.
Does this imply she wanted to boycott the US interests? She didn't.
She just wanted to avoid the war at any cost.
By the way..if she helped the Iraqis...she did right. That's what a mediator does.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Strangely, I've yet to hear something like that directed at myself. People may not agree with me, but I've never been told my perception is mentally challenged.
Well.....we might think one thing, but pretend another to a guy with powerful & violent friends.
th
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Strangely, I've yet to hear something like that directed at myself.

Cruelty induces people to be hyper-judgmental.
for example...some person thinks this young woman has issues. actually I think she's amazing
[youtube]nAI8qkUgqU4[/youtube]
 

factseeker88

factseeker88
Finally someone has brought it up.

What can I say? CIA Insider Susan Lindauer wrote a book in which she claims that the CIA did know everything about the terrorist attacks (and probably the exact day too).

and the Government did nothing to prevent them. Au contraire on September the 11th, the Military air forces were ordered to exercise elsewhere

The CIA very existence depends upon uncovering controversial events and if there is none, they create one. Knowing this, the Pentagon wanted more proof before they did anything, and while they were investigating, 9/11 happened.

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]When we remember [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]we are all mad, [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]the mysteries disappear and life stands explained. Mark Twain[/FONT]


“[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]What we think, or what we know, or what we believe is, in the end, of little consequence. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]The only consequence is WHAT WE DO.”[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]John Ruskin (1819 - 1900) [/FONT]
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The CIA very existence depends upon uncovering controversial events and if there is none, they create one.
Is this based upon your personal experience in the upper echelon of CIA management?
Otherwise, one might question your proffering this as fact rather than opinion.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Is this based upon your personal experience in the upper echelon of CIA management?
Otherwise, one might question your proffering this as fact rather than opinion.

with all due respect...are you trying to clean up the CIA's name?
too late. Its reputation is compromised. People know what the CIA really is
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
with all due respect...are you trying to clean up the CIA's name?
If they asked, then I would.
But for the moment I just clean toilets.

too late. Its reputation is compromised. People know what the CIA really is
People know many things:
- Elvis lives.
- Lizard people walk among us.
- Obama's hyper-intelligence is responsible for our fantastic economic recovery.
- Big Oil is keeping the water fueled engine off the market.
- A woman can change a man.
But are they true? When people outside the CIA tell me details
about its inner workings & conspiracies, I'm skeptical.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
CIA assets divulge their secret plans?
I don't think so.
Many people pretend to be government agents.
They find this useful to impress men, & to get into women's pants.
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
She just wanted to avoid the war at any cost.
By the way..if she helped the Iraqis...she did right.

Although I know nothing of this woman, I share your sentiments in the above-quoted section. :yes:

I mean let's face it: outside of the US/UK the Second Gulf War wasn't exactly popular. Hell, even within the US/UK there are many who disagreed with it.


But hey, I don't want to derail and turn this into an Iraq thread. :)
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
CIA assets divulge their secret plans?
I don't think so.
Many people pretend to be government agents.
They find this useful to impress men, & to get into women's pants.


If I had been a CIA asset, I would have divulged that. I like slagging off people, especially when it deals with awful crimes.

by the way...she doesn't lie. Lots of people believe her...and we are not suckers.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Suckers never believer they're suckers.

More trite wisdom....
The desire to believe is a misleading temptress.
 

factseeker88

factseeker88
CIA assets divulge their secret plans?
I don't think so.
Many people pretend to be government agents.
They find this useful to impress men, & to get into women's pants.

Only Republicans are impressed, Democrats know better.

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained. Mark Twain[/FONT]


“[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]No lesson is so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you should NEVER TRUST EXPERTS.” Lord Salisbury[/FONT][/FONT]
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Suckers never believer they're suckers.

More trite wisdom....
The desire to believe is a misleading temptress.

I could say that the ones who believe that a steel skyscraper can collapse because of fire, are suckers.
 
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Shuttlecraft

.Navigator
Brit TV did a docu a few years ago about the collapse of the WTC towers with diagrams, computer sims, interviews with architects and construction industry experts and so on, and concluded that the burning jet fuel melted the internal steel truss framework, causing the collapses.
That was just their guess of course; I wonder what temperature steel melts at?
The show also said there's a saying in the building industry- "Never trust a truss", but apparently trusses are cheaper than some other methods.
But in defence of the builders, they never knew terrorists would one day fly airliners into the towers..
 
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