The U.S.A. And the case for ending the Union

[tytlyf]

Let the anti-intellectuals take the middle states (flyover country). The rest of the people get the East/West states.
Who would want to live around people who don't like facts, who hate science and are miserable and paranoid 24/7?

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

I do just want to point out, you "Christian Conservative types" told me to leave, not the other way around. It makes me almost wish your religion is real, because how you treat the least among you is how you treat Christ.

Ok, so you want to live with us. Then quit complaining and move back to Indiana.

You rejected Christ and the Christian religion and yet you accuse me of treating Christ wrongly. Pathetic.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Shad]

I do just want to point out, you "Christian Conservative types" told me to leave, not the other way around. It makes me almost wish your religion is real, because how you treat the least among you is how you treat Christ.

Ironic as the same type of people will advocate "live and let live" if the shoe were on the other foot.

This can evem include other Christians who find themselves at odds against their brethren for not believing exactly the same.

Are you surprised by this. It might as be a motto give how often Christians divide themselves over petty differences.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Ok, so you want to live with us.

No. I don't. But, it was then who told me to leave.

You rejected Christ and the Christian religion and yet you accuse me of treating Christ wrongly. Pathetic.

If the Bible is to be believed, intolerance and hate towards others is treating Christ with intolerance and hate. What's pathetic is people telling you to leave your home because you disagree politically and socially and are different from them.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Ironic as the same type of people will advocate "live and let live" if the shoe were on the other foot.

No doubt at all. But they elect someone like Pence, and minority blocks end up on the chopping block,vote to discriminate, and get to feel high and mighty.
But, yes, no doubt if of positions we're reversed they'd suddenly find themselves giving an aweful big less of a damn about what others are doing, and find their own selves wanting to be left alone. Their wanting to go to church wouldn't be their selfish must have right.

Are you surprised by this. It might as be a motto give how often Christians divide themselves over petty differences.

Not at all. I witnessed week after week after weekb9f sermons mentioning why this denomination and that one os wrong and going to Hell.

 

[Shad]

No doubt at all. But they elect someone like Pence, and minority blocks end up on the chopping block,vote to discriminate, and get to feel high and mighty.
But, yes, no doubt if of positions we're reversed they'd suddenly find themselves giving an aweful big less of a damn about what others are doing, and find their own selves wanting to be left alone. Their wanting to go to church wouldn't be their selfish must have right.

Pence represents some of the worst of the GOP's religious demographics. If he were Canadian he wouldn't be a politician. He views would make him unelectable.

Not at all. I witnessed week after week after weekb9f sermons mentioning why this denomination and that one os wrong and going to Hell.

And anyone else that disagrees with X even if not a Christian.

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

No. I don't. But, it was then who told me to leave.

If the Bible is to be believed, intolerance and hate towards others is treating Christ with intolerance and hate. What's pathetic is people telling you to leave your home because you disagree politically and socially and are different from them.

Sorry, but as you have pointed out before, your just giving me your myth story. The bottom line is if you want to live with the Conservative Right, and Christian, go ahead. If you don't, then leave. That way we all get what we want.

That is the whole point. Peaceful division. But of course you don't want that.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Sorry, but as you have pointed out before, your just giving me your myth story. The bottom line is if you want to live with the Conservative Right, and Christian, go ahead. If you don't, then leave. That way we all get what we want.

I'd rather live with my family and friends. But often enough I didn't feel safe or secure amount your Christian types. I'd get unfriendly, and blatantly ****ty, stares from them. They didn't want me having equal rights and access,and expected me to be treasure a back seat to their religious wants. For people told to live their neighbors, they show alot of downright intolerance and prejudice. And I'm not even black. They get out even worse than I had back in Indiana because I'm visible like they are (or Hispanics and Latinos, they treated poorly as well).

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Pence represents some of the worst of the GOP's religious demographics. If he were Canadian he wouldn't be a politician. He views would make him unelectable.

That would be nice. Pence made me feel uneasy as it was, then Trump/Pence happened, and some of us the area I was at in Indiana had reason for concern with the Klan presence in that area.

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

I'd rather live with my family and friends. But often enough I didn't feel safe or secure amount your Christian types. I'd get unfriendly, and blatantly ****ty, stares from them. They didn't want me having equal rights and access,and expected me to be treasure a back seat to their religious wants. For people told to live their neighbors, they show alot of downright intolerance and prejudice. And I'm not even black. They get out even worse than I had back in Indiana because I'm visible like they are (or Hispanics and Latinos, they treated poorly as well).

Yes, yes, those Christians are so mean.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[tytlyf]

The bottom line is if you want to live with the Conservative Right, and Christian, go ahead. If you don't, then leave. That way we all get what we want.

Wait, so you want to live among liberals, minorities, LGBTQ, etc?

That is the whole point. Peaceful division. But of course you don't want that.

Peaceful division? Sounds like you want a divided country. You all should live in the bible belt and leave the rest of us civilized humans alone.

 

[Woberts]

Would certainly be nice, kicking all the degens into a trashy state like Florida.

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

Wait, so you want to live among liberals, minorities, LGBTQ, etc?


Peaceful division? Sounds like you want a divided country. You all should live in the bible belt and leave the rest of us civilized humans alone.

No, I don't want to live among liberals, etc. etc.

We have a divided country. I do live in the Bible belt. I would be fine with all you liberals, atheist's, pagans, yankees, leaving the Bible Belt. So, go away and let us live as we like. Like that is going to happen. Quit your bit****g. And go away. I have no problem with that.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Twilight Hue]

Isn't the idea of a representative republic that parties have to compromise?

Is there some problem with compromise?

The party's clearly have lost their capability.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Would certainly be nice, kicking all the degens into a trashy state like Florida.

Even as a republican I will admit Florida should be the trash pail of the United States.

That is the worst run and messed up state I've ever seen. Watch them botch the election for a straight third time.

 

[Twilight Hue]

No, I don't want to live among liberals, etc. etc.

We have a divided country. I do live in the Bible belt. I would be fine with all you liberals, atheist's, pagans, yankees, leaving the Bible Belt. So, go away and let us live as we like. Like that is going to happen. Quit your bit****g. And go away. I have no problem with that.

Good-Ole-Rebel

I would give anything to get out of the People's Republic of New York. Unfortunately I still have deep roots here. I have a lot of good friends down in Florida from the past but I don't even know where to find them now. Doesn't matter, I don't want to live in Florida either.

I think maybe Texas T might be good. I love San Antonio is have been down there for a while but the humidity is murder.

If any place, I think maybe Arizona or New Mexico. A nice dry hot state living with all the misfit's and UFO hunters.

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

I would give anything to get out of the People's Republic of New York. Unfortunately I still have deep roots here. I have a lot of good friends down in Florida from the past but I don't even know where to find them now. Doesn't matter, I don't want to live in Florida either.

I think maybe Texas T might be good. I love San Antonio is have been down there for a while but the humidity is murder.

If any place, I think maybe Arizona or New Mexico. A nice dry hot state living with all the misfit's and UFO hunters.

Yes, I understand. It's always good to be home. Our problem here is everyone moves down here and then wants to change our way of life. They want what we have but they don't want to live as we do. Reconstruction didn't end in 1877.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[tytlyf]

No, I don't want to live among liberals, etc. etc.

We have a divided country. I do live in the Bible belt. I would be fine with all you liberals, atheist's, pagans, yankees, leaving the Bible Belt. So, go away and let us live as we like. Like that is going to happen. Quit your bit****g. And go away. I have no problem with that.

Good-Ole-Rebel

We're all on board with that. But there's a problem. The conservative culture is trying to dictate what the entire US should be doing. Conservative policies do not promote progress. America will continue to be weaker in the world with republican policies implemented.
Most people don't choose to move to the bible belt, they usually choose to leave it.

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

We're all on board with that. But there's a problem. The conservative culture is trying to dictate what the entire US should be doing. Conservative policies do not promote progress. America will continue to be weaker in the world with republican policies implemented.
Most people don't choose to move to the bible belt, they usually choose to leave it.

All the more reason you should seek secession. We don't want you living with those conservative Bible types.

One can only hope.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[amorphous_constellation]

I'll try to make a case for sticking together.. I really think coming apart could probably only mean civil war, or at least an internal resource war at some point down the line. The peaceful alternative that I see, is one of actual social evolution as opposed to revolution. And for that to happen, perhaps groups need to realize that they don't have all the answers, that there is room for a sort of teleological growth from various points. That we can't really make society into a sort of 'agreement contest,' as that basically may lead to a sort of social incest. And so progress happens as a byproduct of allowing freedom in teleological opinion, even if that sometimes entails debate and great differences in approach

I maintain these views