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The UK is not as bad as Venezuela

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Glad you admit that Tories and farage are not honest.

However, independent sources are in agreement as i the second and third of my links, seems you forgot to check aftet gloating on the John Healey article

All politicians are dishonest, i don't gloat,none are realistic.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Nhs nurses aren't on the minimum wage are they,I don't see poverty in the nhs workforce,I do see year after year and governments that upwards of 30,000 pensioners die of cold every year.

When has minimum wage ever had anything to do with the cost of living? Its a minimum wage that fat cat politicians (many of whom use it as a standard to pay their semi slave labour workers) expect a family can survive on with the addition of additional benefits, which they are constantly trying to cut.

You don't? Perhaps you don't actually condescend to associate with nhs workers. A healthcare assistant will earn a little over minimum wage. For which they pay additional tax and loose benefit's available to those on minimum wage.

And still conservative gov are considering stopping winter fuel payments for retirees who have spent their working life paying tax etc then chose to retire abroad, in countries that are often much colder than the uk during winter. So expect that number to rise.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
All politicians are dishonest, i don't gloat,none are realistic.


Actually you have done little but gloat since you started this thread.

Some are more realistic than other's.

I note the tory gov are in court again, this time for trampling the will of the people.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Actually you have done little but gloat since you started this thread.

Some are more realistic than other's.

I note the tory gov are in court again, this time for trampling the will of the people.

In case you missed it I didn't start this thread about CORBYN AND VENEZUELA.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
This thread is hilarious. The media have you guys so brainwashed you're more concerned with what 'Leader of the Opposition' Corbyn did 20 years ago than what our Prime Minister is actually doing now.

If supporting Irish independence is bad because it involves sympathising with the IRA why are you okay with the Tories backing Saudi city-flatteners?
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
This thread is hilarious. The media have you guys so brainwashed you're more concerned with what 'Leader of the Opposition' Corbyn did 20 years ago than what our Prime Minister is actually doing now.

If supporting Irish independence is bad because it involves sympathising with the IRA why are you okay with the Tories backing Saudi city-flatteners?

Its not what he did 20 years ago,the fear is what labour will do if they ever make a government again,buy back all the privatised rail for a start would be a disaster.

This is what we've been through time after time,one spends what we don't have and the other makes cuts.

Ireland is more complicated than the ira and saudi,well they're doing the flattening not us.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Its not what he did 20 years ago,the fear is what labour will do if they ever make a government again,buy back all the privatised rail for a start would be a disaster.

This is absurd. The UK's railways are some of the least efficient and most over-priced in Europe. By tendering contracts out to private companies, Westminster ensures the profits raised from our railways go back to other countries' coffers rather than our own. It's high time the railways were renationalised so they were ran for the people, not obscene levels of profit.


This is what we've been through time after time,one spends what we don't have and the other makes cuts.

This is false; I'm tempted to say it's an outright lie. Labour are liberal with their spending but have you seen the Tories? They've spent more in seven years than Labour did in fifteen! They've doubled the UK's national debt to £1.8tn despite their shrinkage of the State - what are they spending the money on? Don't you dare pretend that the Conservatives are the party of fiscal responsibility while they're investing hundreds of billions updating a defunct nuclear deterrent as well as vanity projects like HS2 which will only accelerate the talent drain from the Midlands & north of England to London.


Ireland is more complicated than the ira and saudi,well they're doing the flattening not us.

Stop making excuses. Corbyn has been lambasted for his 'relationship' with the IRA while May has been selling millions of pounds worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia who are in the process of committing war crimes in Yemen and is suppressing a report naming Saudi Arabia as the biggest foreign funder of terrorism on British soil! The media have given her a free pass - no scrutiny!

It's arguable that Corbyn was a terrorist sympathiser. It's indisputable that May is not only a terrorist sympathiser, she also funds and arms them!

Lampooning Corbyn for how he acted decades ago while apologising for May's current support of terrorism is nothing but self-righteous hypocrisy.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
This is absurd. The UK's railways are some of the least efficient and most over-priced in Europe. By tendering contracts out to private companies, Westminster ensures the profits raised from our railways go back to other countries' coffers rather than our own. It's high time the railways were renationalised so they were ran for the people, not obscene levels of profit.

Therin lies the problem,the railways have lacked investment for years which is going to cost millions to fix and to buy back for more than they were sold for,who's going to pay?,oh yes we know who.


This is false; I'm tempted to say it's an outright lie. Labour are liberal with their spending but have you seen the Tories? They've spent more in seven years than Labour did in fifteen! They've doubled the UK's national debt to £1.8tn despite their shrinkage of the State - what are they spending the money on? Don't you dare pretend that the Conservatives are the party of fiscal responsibility while they're investing hundreds of billions updating a defunct nuclear deterrent as well as vanity projects like HS2 which will only accelerate the talent drain from the Midlands & north of England to London.

Lol,yes labour are sure liberal with there spending.
We need a nuclear deterrent,id rather have one than not.
One minute we are lambasted over freedom of movement in Europe then for a new train line that's going to drain the north of England lol,really.




Stop making excuses. Corbyn has been lambasted for his 'relationship' with the IRA while May has been selling millions of pounds worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia who are in the process of committing war crimes in Yemen and is suppressing a report naming Saudi Arabia as the biggest foreign funder of terrorism on British soil! The media have given her a free pass - no scrutiny!


you forgot hamas,if you sold a car and the new owner ran someone over who's guilty.

It's arguable that Corbyn was a terrorist sympathiser. It's indisputable that May is not only a terrorist sympathiser, she also funds and arms them!

Proof?.

Lampooning Corbyn for how he acted decades ago while apologising for May's current support of terrorism is nothing but self-righteous hypocrisy.

Its not a problem,its so easy.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
So true, i was blinded for a moment there, but its not about Corbyn but about the UK, check out the thread title... i ask myself is it obsession I see before me???

If your in front of a mirror its self obsession I guess.
Ok,how many uk politicians are fans of Venezuela?.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Its not what he did 20 years ago,the fear is what labour will do if they ever make a government again,buy back all the privatised rail for a start would be a disaster.

This is what we've been through time after time,one spends what we don't have and the other makes cuts.

Ireland is more complicated than the ira and saudi,well they're doing the flattening not us.

Ah so it's not history that's your problem but clairvoyance

Yup there is the dup too, remembering those fundamentalist terrorists backed and funded by may to the tune of around £1 billion.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member

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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
If your in front of a mirror its self obsession I guess.
Ok,how many uk politicians are fans of Venezuela?.


You are the one who is obsessing about what corbyn might do and what he did 20 years ago during the NI peace process, which may has f*ck*d in 3 days in her scramble to keep her seat at the top of the table
 
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