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The UK is not as bad as Venezuela

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Like I said before we'll be fine,we just need to get on with it,the sooner the better so do people like you who throw their toys out of the playpen because they didn't get what they wanted.

It's this sort of thinly-veiled sneering condescension that puts Remainers off backing Brexit; because we're being talked down to by people who are sneering at us because we weren't stupid enough to vote for something we weren't sure was going to work.


Britain is a trading nation,we are going to be open for business,deals are already being made.

By whom? The Tories haven't done their homework in relation to the negotiations. Has Davis done any kind of cost analysis yet?
Trade deals with whom? I'm not sure countries are going to negotiate with us until Brexit happens and our economic situation becomes clear.


You say British democracy "doesn't work" well its worked for us,its the same democractic process used in any other election,you may prefer an unelected bureaucrat in a screwed up Europe.

First off, the only people for whom British 'democracy' has worked well' is the south of England. The north of England hasn't done particularly well, neither have Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland.

Secondly, the cognitive dissonance is strong with you; you act like we have to back Brexit because of a one-off ballot yet here you admit that democracy is a process.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
This reminds me of the Scottish pm who wants another referendum because it didn't go her way.

No, we're wanting another referendum because the Unionists blatantly lied to us and we voted No under false premises. But I realise how stupid it must be to change your mind based on more recent information. I mean who even does that? :rolleyes:


The nhs schools housing are all buckling under the strain of an influx of people from all parts of the poorest places in the EU,like I said before,its easy maths.

Stop lazily laying the blame at the feet of foreigners who've not been here half as long as the problems you're blaming them for.
  1. The NHS is being deliberately under-funded, privatised and sold off piece by piece thanks to the Tories;
  2. Schools are buckling thanks to the Tories' shrinkage of the state and the promotion of private schools & academies;
  3. Housing is under pressure because successive Labour & Tory governments have a) not build enough social housing to keep up with demand; and b) have actively sold off existing social housing to private landlords.
Please stop blaming the poor & powerless in society for the inaction and apathy of the affluent.

 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
It's this sort of thinly-veiled sneering condescension that puts Remainers off backing Brexit; because we're being talked down to by people who are sneering at us because we weren't stupid enough to vote for something we weren't sure was going to work.

That's certainly not the Intention.



By whom? The Tories haven't done their homework in relation to the negotiations. Has Davis done any kind of cost analysis yet?
Trade deals with whom? I'm not sure countries are going to negotiate with us until Brexit happens and our economic situation becomes clear.

Nobody had anything prepared because nobody expected out to win,why do you think Cameron jumped ship.

Officially we cant negotiate till we're out but its a big world and theres plenty of business to be done and preliminaries are taking place.



First off, the only people for whom British 'democracy' has worked well' is the south of England. The north of England hasn't done particularly well, neither have Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland.

This I agree with.

Secondly, the cognitive dissonance is strong with you; you act like we have to back Brexit because of a one-off ballot yet here you admit that democracy is a process.

How many ballots should we have?,as many as it takes till you get the right result?,I'm pretty sure it does t work like that.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
No, we're wanting another referendum because the Unionists blatantly lied to us and we voted No under false premises. But I realise how stupid it must be to change your mind based on more recent information. I mean who even does that? :rolleyes:

Didn't the SNP actually lose seats at the election indicating that the Scottish people didn't want another referendum?.




Stop lazily laying the blame at the feet of foreigners who've not been here half as long as the problems you're blaming them for.
  1. The NHS is being deliberately under-funded, privatised and sold off piece by piece thanks to the Tories;
  2. Schools are buckling thanks to the Tories' shrinkage of the state and the promotion of private schools & academies;
  3. Housing is under pressure because successive Labour & Tory governments have a) not build enough social housing to keep up with demand; and b) have actively sold off existing social housing to private landlords.
Please stop blaming the poor & powerless in society for the inaction and apathy of the affluent.


I absolutely do no blame foreigners or poor people,the blame lays at the feet of the EU.

This is my last post in this thread concerning the EU,if anyone wants to debate the EU please start a other thead.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I absolutely do no blame foreigners or poor people,the blame lays at the feet of the EU.

This is my last post in this thread concerning the EU,if anyone wants to debate the EU please start a other thead.


Yet blaming immigrants is exactly what you have been doing,constant.

Please note, the UK MEPs (who you (perhaps) voted for ) were as responsible for EU directives as any other EU MEP. In fact, Britain has had a veto since the days of Thatcher, and still you blame the EU.

And there you go, bottling out again. You refuse to respond to questions, you run of when the going gets tough, yet you are resolute in your conviction, it seems you know not why.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
How many ballots should we have?,as many as it takes till you get the right result?,I'm pretty sure it does t work like that.

I won't make your mistake by placing an arbitrary number on something I've already described as a process.


I absolutely do no blame foreigners or poor people,the blame lays at the feet of the EU.

This is my last post in this thread concerning the EU,if anyone wants to debate the EU please start a other thead.

What reason do you have to blame the EU for domestic policy decisions taken by successive Westminster governments? Brussels doesn't have nearly as much power as Brexiteers think it does. The truth is the reason things like the NHS and social infrastructure like housing & schools are over capacity is because British governments have continually refused to invest in them. The buck starts and stops with the UK's own government.


Ok but ill no

Ok don't,ill not answer here though

So basically you'll just keep doing what you've been doing up until now?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
The Corbynistas would do well to watch this video.


And the Mayites should understand that they have actually done


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