The UK is not as bad as Venezuela

[Notanumber]

Hi....
I clicked on the capx report, then clicked on 'about capx'.
I was just so surprised that you trawled that story up on a, wait for it...... CAPITALIST website!
"CapX was founded to make the case for popular capitalism."......... enough.


There will be many reasons why Venezuela has dropped into a most dreadful depression. But just look at the UK stats and you will see that the Brits might, just might, vote Corbyn in next Election.
Mr Corbyn is not responsible for the highs or lows of any country at this time, but if he can do anything towards giving better chances to our young working families to get housing, or education or health, with reasonable Home Security, then it does look as if he will get a chance.


Mr Corbyn, like most politicians will investigate to discover what voters want and he will alter his position in order to obtain votes. Have you ever heard of politicians doing something like that...... listening to the people?

I had never voted Labour before the last election but the Tory MP who had held this area for decades lost his seat to Labour........ there is an outside chance that Mr Corbyn could be our Prime Minister within a few years..... who knows?

A number of Mr Corbyn's MPs lined up to criticise him in the wake of his remarks, with one suggesting the comments do not befit a politician who wants to prime minister.

Pressed on whether he regretted supporting Mr Maduro when he was elected, Mr Corbyn said: "I gave the support of many people around the world for the principle of a government that was dedicated towards reducing inequality and improving the life chances of the poorest people."

Reacting to Mr Corbyn's comments, veteran Labour MP Frank Field told the Press Association: "Voters in this country expect future prime ministers to be robust in defending the independence of the judiciary, respect for human rights and a parliamentary process. They've had their dialogue on this a long time ago."

Fellow Labour MP John Spellar, a member of a new all-party parliamentary group on Venezuela, said Mr Corbyn was too ambiguous and called on him to "unequivocally" recognise the failure of Mr Maduro's regime.

International Development Secretary Priti Patel said: "Despite the destitution and the depravity of Maduro's government, Corbyn fails to criticise Maduro.

"What will it take for Corbyn to finally urge Maduro to stop the violence, the human rights abuses, the poverty and the killings?"

Corbyn refuses to condemn Maduro as he breaks Venezuela silence

 

[ChristineM]

Venezuela sucks and as you've shown all along that you wont admit you are wrong and not just regarding Venezuela.

When you can provide actual evidence and not right wing hype then we'll discuss your experience of Venezuela.

The state of the uk tells me i am not wrong, the fact you have not provided any counter to any of my points regarding the failure of the uk tells me i have no need to admit i am wrong and i throw the accusation right back at you

 

[ChristineM]

Do you honestly believe that JC & JM want to stay in the EU?

Absolutely not, what has that to do with anything? The decision has been made. However, as far as i was aware the human rights act has not yet been repealed and i have the right to give my opinion.

You may be quite happy with the way the uk is disintegrating, im not

 

[England my lionheart]

If you want a critical evaluation, Venezuela is not exposed to worst case scenarios as the uk.

In the event of a nucear war between nato and russia, uk will be wiped out.

That is one area where venezuela scores over the uk.

What a great contribution to the thread duh.

 

[ChristineM]

What a great contribution to the thread duh.

Why, because you don't like the fact stated?

 

[England my lionheart]

Nah! That ship was simply 'Capitalist'.
Why, they even locked the steerage passengers below!

Stop worrying..... it hasn't happened yet, and if the stats look too good for Labour you wealthy folks can always start evacuating all your spare cash to ....... Turks & Kaikos?
Better still, if Labour might win, buy gold...... you'll love it!

Who says I'm rich?,if labour gets in there will be no cash left,buy land dear boy not gold.

 

[England my lionheart]

Why, because you don't like the fact stated?

No because its silly,we've had that scenario for years,there I was with my NBC suit weapon facing thousands of Russians at the border and thanks to one Russian officer we didn't get nuked,anyone daft enough to think they would be ok if we were nuked need to do some research.

 

[England my lionheart]

When you can provide actual evidence and not right wing hype then we'll discuss your experience of Venezuela.

The state of the uk tells me i am not wrong, the fact you have not provided any counter to any of my points regarding the failure of the uk tells me i have no need to admit i am wrong and i throw the accusation right back at you

Do your own research,it not hard.
Turkmenistan

 

[oldbadger]

A number of Mr Corbyn's MPs lined up to criticise him in the wake of his remarks, with one suggesting the comments do not befit a politician who wants to prime minister.

Pressed on whether he regretted supporting Mr Maduro when he was elected, Mr Corbyn said: "I gave the support of many people around the world for the principle of a government that was dedicated towards reducing inequality and improving the life chances of the poorest people."

Reacting to Mr Corbyn's comments, veteran Labour MP Frank Field told the Press Association: "Voters in this country expect future prime ministers to be robust in defending the independence of the judiciary, respect for human rights and a parliamentary process. They've had their dialogue on this a long time ago."

Fellow Labour MP John Spellar, a member of a new all-party parliamentary group on Venezuela, said Mr Corbyn was too ambiguous and called on him to "unequivocally" recognise the failure of Mr Maduro's regime.

International Development Secretary Priti Patel said: "Despite the destitution and the depravity of Maduro's government, Corbyn fails to criticise Maduro.

"What will it take for Corbyn to finally urge Maduro to stop the violence, the human rights abuses, the poverty and the killings?"

Corbyn refuses to condemn Maduro as he breaks Venezuela silence

If the Labour Party chooses to it can elect a new leader.
Mr Corbyn has already condemned violence in Venezuela.
Mr Corbyn has already suggested that Venezuela needs to find alternative National Income other than just fuel oil.

I cannot focus my attention on injustice very far outside this country myself, so I'll not be pointing fingers at Mr Corbyn. I personally am most interested at this time in any real investigations about how hundreds of low cost housing blocks of flats got clad in aluminium, a cheaper alternative to more stable products. I'm more interested in the matter of how so many Fire Inspectors failed to report such extreme risks etc etc....... in fact the list of my interests has to focus within our own borders at this time.

I don't think that public opinion will oust Mr Corbyn over his refusal to criticise Mr Maduro.

 

[ChristineM]

No because its silly,we've had that scenario for years,there I was with my NBC suit weapon facing thousands of Russians at the border and thanks to one Russian officer we didn't get nuked,anyone daft enough to think they would be ok if we were nuked need to do some research.

What? What has this to do with the UK going down the the toilet

 

[oldbadger]

Who says I'm rich?,if labour gets in there will be no cash left,buy land dear boy not gold.

Who me? A dear boy? You're so sweet!
You're poor? Well then, next election you could vote Labour?
And who has the money to buy land? Your suggestion is a bit like telling those without bread to eat cake........ that kind of talk really did start a melt down, but they was frog-leg eaters.

 

[ChristineM]

Do your own research,it not hard.
Turkmenistan

I've done my research, i just got sick of you making incredulous claims with no evidence

I also note the link quotes failing hospitals, violence, anti government arrests, humanitarian crisis, assault against human rights defence.

Read your local independent news paper recently?

 

[Notanumber]

I don't think that public opinion will oust Mr Corbyn over his refusal to criticise Mr Maduro.

It should do.

 

[Notanumber]

What? What has this to do with the UK going down the the toilet

That's because the EU has been bleeding us dry.

 

[ChristineM]

Who me? A dear boy? You're so sweet!
You're poor? Well then, next election you could vote Labour?
And who has the money to buy land? Your suggestion is a bit like telling those without bread to eat cake........ that kind of talk really did start a melt down, but they was frog-leg eaters.

And snails, both are very nice when prepared correctly

 

[ChristineM]

That's because the EU has been bleeding us dry.

Been through that before and you couldn't justify the claim then, i very much doubt you can justify it now.

Fyi, many of those poor areas (like wales for example) have benefitted from EU initiative's. In fact wales has had a net benefit of £79 per person out of the EU

 

[ChristineM]

It should do.

Why? He's increased labours share of support more than any other labour leader in 76 years. Unlike May who lost her majority and mandate and consequently had to team up with terrorists to hang on to #10

 

[Notanumber]

Been through that before and you couldn't justify the claim then, i very much doubt you can justify it now.

Fyi, many of those poor areas (like wales for example) have benefitted from EU initiative's. In fact wales has had a net benefit of £79 per person out of the EU

The EU is very good at spending our money.

 

[Notanumber]

Why? He's increased labours share of support more than any other labour leader in 76 years. Unlike May who lost her majority and mandate and consequently had to team up with terrorists to hang on to #10

May was punished for being sensible. Corbyn is being praised for being reckless.

Crazy world init.

 

[ChristineM]

The EU is very good at spending our money.

Yup, where it is needed.

As opposed to may and co who wont even spend on the nhs