What? Overreaching is sensible, over confidence is sensible?
Funny how for the referendum you called will of the people democracy, for mays humiliation you call it punished for being sensible
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The UK is not as bad as Venezuela
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What? Overreaching is sensible, over confidence is sensible?
Funny how for the referendum you called will of the people democracy, for mays humiliation you call it punished for being sensible
Notanumber
A Free Man
They will have to draw their horns in when we leave or find another money tree.
I think perhaps you have been reading right-wing press, Britain's net contribution is far less than farage and Johnson claimed, you were lied to and never bothered checking.
And don't forget the rebate maggy got.
Remember that 350 million a week promised to the nhs? Ha, ha, ha, whos a gullible chappie then?
And you really think the loss of Britain's contribution will make much difference, remember, there won't be a britain to spend it on
It was to
You weren't meant to take that seriously but seriously I wouldn't vote labour anytime soon.
Who me? A dear boy? You're so sweet!
You're poor? Well then, next election you could vote Labour?
And who has the money to buy land? Your suggestion is a bit like telling those without bread to eat cake........ that kind of talk really did start a melt down, but they was frog-leg eaters.
You weren't meant to take that seriously but seriously I wouldn't vote labour anytime soon.
Frogs legs not but snails and garlic go well
Wow that's a fortune.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
I don't think that your links or reports on the situation are balanced.
I don't think that the Brit politicians who are manipulating this story to embarrass Mr Corbyn are without agenda.
Not trusting your explanations about all this, I googled any BBC reports about the issues there, and a difference picture emerged entirely.
It would appear that a sad turn in the finances of the country have caused insecurities which outside influences have sought to use, to destabilise the Left-Wing Government. And some of this interference comes from Right Wing foreign governments.
I haven't got any agenda about this, but have you?
...... just askin'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-36319877
Venezuela is split into Chavistas, the name given to the followers of the socialist policies of the late President Hugo Chavez, and those who cannot wait to see an end to the 18 years in power of his United Socialist Party (PSUV).
After the socialist leader died in 2013, Nicolas Maduro, also of the PSUV, was elected president on a promise to continue Mr Chavez's policies.
Chavistas praise the two men for using Venezuela's oil riches to markedly reduce inequality and for lifting many Venezuelans out of poverty.
But the opposition says that since the PSUV came to power in 1999, the socialist party has eroded Venezuela's democratic institutions and mismanaged its economy.
Chavistas in turn accuse the opposition of being elitist and of exploiting poor Venezuelans to increase their own riches.
They also allege that opposition leaders are in the pay of the United States, a country with which Venezuela has had fraught relations in recent years.
Ah ha.......
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Fair enough.
If Venezuela's economic situation would have remained stable then all would have been well, it seems. The economic crisis has caused the problems and it seems that interfering countries have fueled the fires of discontent.
The BBC reported that the US would like to cause trouble for the Venezuelan Left-Wing Government. And in the middle of the crisis Right-Wing mags and various unfriendly politicians have jumped at the chance to throw much at a politician who has always supported Maduro's support for the poor of the country, a leader now faced with many angry people who have lost out.
In other words the criticism of Mr Corbyn is not reliable at all. I wonder how often countries try to bring down other country's governments at the first opportunity? Have you ever heard of anything like that?
Here's a Beeb report........ the right-wing mag reports can go straight in the rubbish bin. Honestly.... :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-36319877
Venezuela is split into Chavistas, the name given to the followers of the socialist policies of the late President Hugo Chavez, and those who cannot wait to see an end to the 18 years in power of his United Socialist Party (PSUV).
After the socialist leader died in 2013, Nicolas Maduro, also of the PSUV, was elected president on a promise to continue Mr Chavez's policies.
Chavistas praise the two men for using Venezuela's oil riches to markedly reduce inequality and for lifting many Venezuelans out of poverty.
But the opposition says that since the PSUV came to power in 1999, the socialist party has eroded Venezuela's democratic institutions and mismanaged its economy.
Chavistas in turn accuse the opposition of being elitist and of exploiting poor Venezuelans to increase their own riches.
They also allege that opposition leaders are in the pay of the United States, a country with which Venezuela has had fraught relations in recent years.
..................... there you go. A typical case of outside interference.
The OP appears to be totally biased.
Notanumber
A Free Man
The OP is concerned about his country and does not want it to end up like Venezuela.
From your favourites, the BBC.
If you still think socialism is working comrades. VOTE CORBYN
EDIT:
Since you like the BBC so much, look at this.
How can Corbyn continue to support this state terrorism?
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oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
You have chosen film of a demonstration needing to be controlled by Police, and then magnified it into 'Maduro putting down his people'.
On a forum we can shove to and fro' about such issues, but if any media deliberately portrayed such scenes to make Maduro look like a wicked tyrant it would simply be 'Dirty Political Propaganda'.
I remember scenes just like those you posted in the UK, when our miners were layed off and cheap Columbian coal 'Mined by children' was being imported. And the Police didn't just use body armour, but rode into the demonstrators on horseback to break them up.
Either you don't remember that or won't remember that. That was a Right-Wing leader who ordered such action, and the Police were instructed 'not to stay their hands'.
Your thread seems to be a heavily prejudiced attack on a Minister who you are beginning to get frightened about. You're actually helping Mr Corbyn with all this.
Notanumber
A Free Man
You have chosen film of a demonstration needing to be controlled by Police, and then magnified it into 'Maduro putting down his people'.
On a forum we can shove to and fro' about such issues, but if any media deliberately portrayed such scenes to make Maduro look like a wicked tyrant it would simply be 'Dirty Political Propaganda'.
I remember scenes just like those you posted in the UK, when our miners were layed off and cheap Columbian coal 'Mined by children' was being imported. And the Police didn't just use body armour, but rode into the demonstrators on horseback to break them up.
Either you don't remember that or won't remember that. That was a Right-Wing leader who ordered such action, and the Police were instructed 'not to stay their hands'.
Your thread seems to be a heavily prejudiced attack on a Minister who you are beginning to get frightened about. You're actually helping Mr Corbyn with all this.
Therefore, you have gone off the BBC now then.
Are there any reporters that you do like or do they all have to be blinkered because Jeremy is never wrong?
ajay0
Well-Known Member
Thank you. It is my humble critical evaluation of the situation.
With rising tensions between Russia and NATO , this can become a reality anytime.
Venezuela has no such threats to it.
Britain has more hawks than doves, and it is bound to pay the price now or later, unless they grow wiser.
Notanumber
A Free Man
I call this a threat - Zoo animals are being stolen and eaten in Venezuela
As SilentMajority says – “Corbyn will be the first to start eating zoo animals when his marxist plans fail.”
Thank you. It is my humble critical evaluation of the situation.
With rising tensions between Russia and NATO , this can become a reality anytime.
Venezuela has no such threats to it.
Britain has more hawks than doves, and it is bound to pay the price now or later, unless they grow wiser.
Like I said we've lived with the threat for many years but bombing us would be crazy because it not going to be one way traffic.
ajay0
Well-Known Member
Here is an interesting article as well....
U.K arming human rights abusers as in Saudi Arabia and Venezuela
An excerpt from the article...
Fair enough.
If Venezuela's economic situation would have remained stable then all would have been well, it seems. The economic crisis has caused the problems and it seems that interfering countries have fueled the fires of discontent.
The BBC reported that the US would like to cause trouble for the Venezuelan Left-Wing Government. And in the middle of the crisis Right-Wing mags and various unfriendly politicians have jumped at the chance to throw much at a politician who has always supported Maduro's support for the poor of the country, a leader now faced with many angry people who have lost out.
In other words the criticism of Mr Corbyn is not reliable at all. I wonder how often countries try to bring down other country's governments at the first opportunity? Have you ever heard of anything like that?
Here's a Beeb report........ the right-wing mag reports can go straight in the rubbish bin. Honestly.... :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-36319877
Venezuela is split into Chavistas, the name given to the followers of the socialist policies of the late President Hugo Chavez, and those who cannot wait to see an end to the 18 years in power of his United Socialist Party (PSUV).
After the socialist leader died in 2013, Nicolas Maduro, also of the PSUV, was elected president on a promise to continue Mr Chavez's policies.
Chavistas praise the two men for using Venezuela's oil riches to markedly reduce inequality and for lifting many Venezuelans out of poverty.
But the opposition says that since the PSUV came to power in 1999, the socialist party has eroded Venezuela's democratic institutions and mismanaged its economy.
Chavistas in turn accuse the opposition of being elitist and of exploiting poor Venezuelans to increase their own riches.
They also allege that opposition leaders are in the pay of the United States, a country with which Venezuela has had fraught relations in recent years.
..................... there you go. A typical case of outside interference.
The OP appears to be totally biased.
Amnesty international has no political association so I believe them.
I dont trust corbyn or labour wlth its make up and influence of the far left or re nationalising everything.
Notanumber
A Free Man
Are you saying that Corbyn plans to shut down the UK defence and security industries?
This thread is about the Corbynista’s wanting to drag the UK down to the level of Venezuela.
Over 3 million people, a quarter of a billion pounds extra each year is quite a lot of money. Money that May and co would not dig into their offshore bank balances for.
More to the point, it is more than paid out so your argument fall flat on its face.
Also note : wales is quoted as beingn one of the 10 poorest areas in northern europe. With out those payments it would be even worse
As i throught, no taste.