The Uneducated Anti-Assault Rifle Warriors. Yea!!!

[Debater Slayer]

College students don't seem to bother with such details anymore. It seems like they protest just to make selfies.

They should definitely take more notes from people who rely on Iron Age books to derive their morals and political stances from. What are those college folks thinking?

 

[Thief]

Personally, I just want more sensible, stringent, and thorough regulations, restrictions, and requirements. I'm not suggesting that anything be banned. Is that hysteria rather than a solution? People on the left consider me a "gun nut" because I support the 2nd amendment (although I don't own any guns myself), and people on the right consider me a "gun grabber" because I think guns (especially bullet hoses like the AR15) should be a bit harder to obtain than candy bars.

where I live....I own guns
several handguns and one of them 'could' be thought of as an assault pistol
that item is no longer made
that item is not allowed in California
the magazine is not allowed in California

but it has the same function as any other 9mm handgun
and some other handguns perform even better

so .....for the ignorant of weapons.....

my little 22 with hollow points and ten rounds
will let me get closer and do more harm

a ban might take my outdated junkie 9mm
and I get to keep my pocket pistol

my junk gun looks mean
my 22 is really small

got law?
got brains?

 

[Father Heathen]

where I live....I own guns
several handguns and one of them 'could' be thought of as an assault pistol
that item is no longer made
that item is not allowed in California
the magazine is not allowed in California

but it has the same function as any other 9mm handgun
and some other handguns perform even better

so .....for the ignorant of weapons.....

my little 22 with hollow points and ten rounds
will let me get closer and do more harm

a ban might take my outdated junkie 9mm
and I get to keep my pocket pistol

my junk gun looks mean
my 22 is really small

got law?
got brains?

Obviously it's stupid to classify a gun based on its appearance rather than on its actual capability and effectiveness. That said, how does this relate to my post?

 

[Twilight Hue]

I might not be the brightest bulb on the planet, Nowhere Man, but I'm smart enough to know how unreliable your video is most likely to be. That notion that the video represents all -- or even a majority of college kids -- is quite likely to be ridiculous. I cannot be certain why you picked that video and tried to fob it off as representative of "college edumatcated people", but what seem to me the top three most likely reasons do not any of them reflect well on you.

I think the video was more of a service. If you're going to protest against something it's probably be best advised to learn a little bit about it.

It's more of a testament that people will stand against something, anything for that matter, as a result of what's in vogue with the latest craze in media and fitting in with group consensus then actually researching and examining the subject itself in providing answers that that don't make you look like you're saying things on the sole basis that it's the thing to do if you want to fit into a crowd.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I work at a community college and one of the professors told me that she had 7 students march in a protest for tighter gun legislation. When she asked them a few questions about our state regulations, they couldn't answer any of them! It is important to protest so long as you know what, specifically, you are protesting for.

Yep that's the whole point. You would think college students would be privy to research and seeking out proper and pertinent information to make their particular case.

I think a lot of people with opinions now only go that way because it's popular or it makes you fit in. It seems the task of information seeking to help support what you're protesting is secondary to that.

If even at all.

 

[Revoltingest]

I know plenty of strong gun owners/advocates who misuse terms like clip/magazine and assault riffle. Knowing such details really isn't even what the debates are about.

Aye, there is much ignorance about....& not the good kind.
People who don't sweat the details don't get on the gun
control team.

 

[Revoltingest]

Guns fire bullets that kill or maim living things, including people. There are no easily available ways to stop a bullet fired at you.

That is sufficient knowledge.

Oh, dear.
Tell you what....you can watch the RF gun control design
team I'm assembling, but you don't get any power....yet.

 

[Thief]

Obviously it's stupid to classify a gun based on its appearance rather than on its actual capability and effectiveness. That said, how does this relate to my post?

the gun nuts go for the candy bars....
so to speak....

if it looks like an assault weapon.....it's a bad thing

I don't believe it's the gun that is the problem

Man has been killing man since Cain and Abel
and a rock was the weapon of choice?

(I think it goes back a bit further, actually)

 

[Father Heathen]

the gun nuts go for the candy bars....
so to speak....

if it looks like an assault weapon.....it's a bad thing

I don't believe it's the gun that is the problem

Man has been killing man since Cain and Abel
and a rock was the weapon of choice?

(I think it goes back a bit further, actually)

If one kid shows up at one school with an AR15 and another kid shows up at another school with a rock, who will have the higher body count?

 

[Quetzal]

Yep that's the whole point. You would think college students would be privy to research and seeking out proper and pertinent information to make their particular case.

Oh man, if only you knew. Don't get me wrong, a majority of them are okay. But there is also a group that... well... they will disappoint you.

 

[Quetzal]

You don't need to know the laws to protest the fact that the current laws have proved inadequate in quelling the rising incidence of mass shootings and to demand that lawmakers craft better an more effective laws.

Right, however, part of your responsibility is to be a spokes person to help promote a cause. If you don't know the details of your cause you can't have that discussion.

 

[idav]

the gun nuts go for the candy bars....
so to speak....

if it looks like an assault weapon.....it's a bad thing

I don't believe it's the gun that is the problem

Man has been killing man since Cain and Abel
and a rock was the weapon of choice?

(I think it goes back a bit further, actually)

Gun fanatics as per usual underestimate gun legislations ability to regulate the more deadly tools. Guns are much better at what they are made for, killing and maiming, you ever actually try and kill with a rock.

 

[Quetzal]

Do you think those 7 students gave up their right to petition the government because they didn't know the relevant state regulations?

No, but the point is that you need to understand the subject you are protesting. It gives credibility to you and your cause. If you don't know the details of what you are protesting, you are not ready to protest. I believe it is important for folks to understand the environment, in detail, so they can navigate it properly. Much to the same tone of the Occupy Wall Street movement. You need specific, obtainable goals. In order to have those, you have to know what you are talking about.

 

[Quetzal]

College students don't seem to bother with such details anymore. It seems like they protest just to make selfies.

I think their protest was genuine and they have their heart in the right place. However, from my perspective, making broad statements about college students is inaccurate in many cases and this is another one. Some do know the details, some don't.

 

[sayak83]

Right, however, part of your responsibility is to be a spokes person to help promote a cause. If you don't know the details of your cause you can't have that discussion.

If you are the spokesperson, yes. But joining the protest does not require such knowledge.

 

[Quetzal]

If you are the spokesperson, yes. But joining the protest does not require such knowledge.

Of course it does! How can anyone take a protest seriously if the participants don't have an in depth knowledge of what they are protesting?

 

[tytlyf]

The first statement in the video was accurate. Assault-weapons are military-style weapons developed initially for military use.

Actually, most of the statements are accurate.

 

[Revoltingest]

Of course it does! How can anyone take a protest seriously if the participants don't have an in depth knowledge of what they are protesting?

And of course, there are people armed with video cameras looking for the next embarrassed youtube star.

 

[Stanyon]

If you are the spokesperson, yes. But joining the protest does not require such knowledge.

Wouldn't that just make them useful idiots?

 

[Twilight Hue]

The first statement in the video was accurate. Assault-weapons are military-style weapons developed initially for military use.

Actually, most of the statements are accurate.

Wow.