No. See my earlier post.
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The Uneducated Anti-Assault Rifle Warriors. Yea!!!
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Not at all. Why would you protest something if you don't have an understanding as to what that something is? I mean, am I wrong in that someone should understand what they are protesting? I don't understand the perspective of being ignorant on a topic and protesting it anyway.
One can protest that an industry is poisoning the local water supply by effluents without understanding the chemical reactions that are causing it. Here people are protesting the rise in mass shootings in public places that target innocents, even children and the fact that the government has crafted no policy on reducing and preventing these. The demands are simple. Make laws that prevent such people from owning guns legally. Nothing else needs to be known at all.
Some clarifications please: Where did you get the number 191? I know what a mass shooting is, but what is a “multiple mass shooting”? What is an “AR15 style”?
And therein lies the problem, ie, eschewing other useful measures.
Lack of understanding leads to simplistic demands & poor results.
I disagree. The law makers are tasked to know the details and formulate effective laws, the citizens need only assess the results on the ground, and if found inadequate, push the lawmakers to do more.
Intelligent & thoughtful pushing is better than uninformed ranting.
No. I believe in specialization. Its the job of the mechanic to fix my car, it the job of the doctor to cure me, and its the job of the politician to formulate laws that protect me from mass shooters. If they fail in their jobs we protest, criticize and sack them like any other service provider .
Do more what, exactly? That is the question that these students that I mentioned can't answer. If you ask them "What piece of legislation, specifically, do you disagree with?" They can't answer it because they don't know what it is or how it works. You cannot demand change without offering a reasonable alternative. These students can't do that so they can't demand anything in any legitimate capacity.
It isn't that simple.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Mass shootings in the United States - Wikipedia I added the deaths (excluding assailants) from the mass shootings that involved semi-auto rifles from 2012 to present. And that number is actually 203, as I forgot to add the Aurora victims.
How is this even a question? It means more than one mass shooting, obviously; Sandy Hook, Orlando night club, Las Vegas concert, Texas church, etc, etc.
Semi-auto rifles with large magazines and configured for rapid fire, based on designs intended for combat rather than sporting or hunting purposes. (and I'm not referring to mere aesthetics. Otherwise, why don't hunters use AR15s or similar?)
FYI, I don't support an outright ban, but obviously they're too easily accessable.
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No its exactly that simple. Its not incumbent on me to tell the mechanic how to fix my car. Its their duty to it, so that it works again. Same here.
Its the politicians job to figure out how to do it. They are the lawmakers. Get at it. Chop chop. They are responsible to bring out a set of laws on guns that will stop or lower mass shooting incidents. We will see how effective they actually are and vote them up in or out accordingly. Same with issues regarding employment , govt. debt, education etc. etc.
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I admire your passion.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
that wasn't the point.....
but point taken
return fire with sufficient fire
not that teachers should be encumbered with AR15s
Thief
Rogue Theologian
as martial artist...I know how to kill with my hands
but I'm old and gray nowadays
not much of a stand-up, stand-ground kind of guy anymore
and knowing what it takes to down the bad guy......I will keep my gun
and knowing that shooting fish in a barrel
is like shooting people in confined quarters......
teachers should be armed
tytlyf
Not Religious
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Think of it as an imitation of a brand name.
Strictly cosmetic without full functionality of the genuine article.
esmith
Veteran Member
Do all of you realize that the ArmiaLite Rifle Model 15 (AR-15) was never used by the US Military? Probably not. ArmiaLite sold the rights to Colt in 1959 who modified it and sold it to the US military as the M16 which went into production in 1969. However Colt did continue to use the AR-15 trademark as a semi-automatic only and marketed it to civilian and law enforcement.