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The Uneducated Anti-Assault Rifle Warriors. Yea!!!

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

You know the college edumatcated people...

They're out there and gunning for ya!!
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
You know the college edumatcated people...

"Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin'
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'."

-- Bob Dylan, The Times They Are A-Changin'.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Knowing that 191 innocent people died from multiple mass shootings involving AR15 style rifles since 2012 is probably more important than knowing the difference between a clip and a magazine.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Knowing that 191 innocent people died from multiple mass shootings involving AR15 style rifles since 2012 is probably more important than knowing the difference between a clip and a magazine.
But complete ignorance of the subject makes it much easier to demonize the
weapons, whip up hysteria, call for banning, & utterly avoid real solutions.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
But complete ignorance of the subject makes it much easier to demonize the
weapons, whip up hysteria, call for banning, & utterly avoid real solutions.

Personally, I just want more sensible, stringent, and thorough regulations, restrictions, and requirements. I'm not suggesting that anything be banned. Is that hysteria rather than a solution? People on the left consider me a "gun nut" because I support the 2nd amendment (although I don't own any guns myself), and people on the right consider me a "gun grabber" because I think guns (especially bullet hoses like the AR15) should be a bit harder to obtain than candy bars.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Personally, I just want more sensible, stringent, and thorough regulations, restrictions, and requirements. I'm not suggesting that anything be banned. Is that hysteria rather than a solution? People on the left consider me a "gun nut" because I support the 2nd amendment (although I don't own any guns myself), and people on the right consider me a "gun grabber" because I think guns (especially bullet hoses like the AR15) should be a bit harder to obtain than candy bars.
When I become dictator, you get to join the gun control design team.
@Quetzal is on board too.
I'll also invite @esmith, but mostly cuz we're going to play practical jokes on'm.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
But complete ignorance of the subject makes it much easier to demonize the
weapons, whip up hysteria, call for banning, & utterly avoid real solutions.
I know plenty of strong gun owners/advocates who misuse terms like clip/magazine and assault riffle. Knowing such details really isn't even what the debates are about.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member

You know the college edumatcated people...

They're out there and gunning for ya!!
I work at a community college and one of the professors told me that she had 7 students march in a protest for tighter gun legislation. When she asked them a few questions about our state regulations, they couldn't answer any of them! It is important to protest so long as you know what, specifically, you are protesting for.
 

Akivah

Well-Known Member
I work at a community college and one of the professors told me that she had 7 students march in a protest for tighter gun legislation. When she asked them a few questions about our state regulations, they couldn't answer any of them! It is important to protest so long as you know what, specifically, you are protesting for.

College students don't seem to bother with such details anymore. It seems like they protest just to make selfies.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
These morons make me want to pull my hair out. It's no wonder they're derided by the pro-gun crowd. They don't have the faintest idea what they're talking about. They're entirely ignorant of the weapon they're so opinionated about. Their opinions should be dismissed out-of-hand.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Guns fire bullets that kill or maim living things, including people. There are no easily available ways to stop a bullet fired at you.

That is sufficient knowledge.
Sufficient for what? What's your point?
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Guns fire bullets that kill or maim living things, including people. There are no easily available ways to stop a bullet fired at you.

That is sufficient knowledge.

I think if you know that the availability of firearms in a society positively correlates with mass shootings, you're way ahead of anyone who knows the standard cartridge for an AR-15 but can be no more convinced of any science surrounding the gun issue than a creationist can be convinced of evolution*.



*Note: I am not arguing for banning firearms.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member

You know the college edumatcated people...


I might not be the brightest bulb on the planet, Nowhere Man, but I'm smart enough to know how unreliable your video is most likely to be. That notion that the video represents all -- or even a majority of college kids -- is quite likely to be ridiculous. I cannot be certain why you picked that video and tried to fob it off as representative of "college edumatcated people", but what seem to me the top three most likely reasons do not any of them reflect well on you.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Sufficient for what? What's your point?
Sufficient for activism that pressurizes the politicians to enact stricter gun laws aimed at keeping guns out of hands of people who are at risk of using them on people or on themselves.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I work at a community college and one of the professors told me that she had 7 students march in a protest for tighter gun legislation. When she asked them a few questions about our state regulations, they couldn't answer any of them! It is important to protest so long as you know what, specifically, you are protesting for.

Do you think those 7 students gave up their right to petition the government because they didn't know the relevant state regulations?

In a larger sense, how much do they need to know before they should have a right to petition their government?
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I work at a community college and one of the professors told me that she had 7 students march in a protest for tighter gun legislation. When she asked them a few questions about our state regulations, they couldn't answer any of them! It is important to protest so long as you know what, specifically, you are protesting for.
You don't need to know the laws to protest the fact that the current laws have proved inadequate in quelling the rising incidence of mass shootings and to demand that lawmakers craft better an more effective laws.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I work at a community college and one of the professors told me that she had 7 students march in a protest for tighter gun legislation. When she asked them a few questions about our state regulations, they couldn't answer any of them! It is important to protest so long as you know what, specifically, you are protesting for.

Yeah, unfortunately a lot of it is more "virtue signaling" than it is a sincere effort to influence change. Simply chanting and waving a sign is just as effective as "thoughts and prayers".
 
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