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The Virgin Mary - or was she?

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gnostic said:
Technically there is no church tradition in the bible.

Especially the OT, where the bible were written by non-Christians.
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The New Testament is nothing but church tradition, and the decision to carry over the Jewish scriptures into Christianity is part of church tradition, too.
 
logician

logician

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One question, does anyone think of themselves as originated in sin because their own mother was obviously not a virgin?
 
Dirty Penguin

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I see that the conversation is shifting a little and I'm coming in late but I wanted to give my opinion on this matter. I'm not sure I believe these children were from a previous marriage. First there is no, at least to my knowledge, mention anywhere in the scripture of Joseph having been married before Mary. So far I have found nothing in the scripture to suggest that the "sons" he had were his biological children at all. The OT and a couple of the writers of the NT give the genealogy up to Joseph but never mentions any of his children in the genealogy. Sometimes the bible gives the impression that it is big on mentioning the first born males of the house. I find that interesting because in the genealogy that is given they go way back but there is no mention of Joseph's first born son in it. To my knowledge they only list Yeshua, who was not even his blood related child. Additionally what I find interesting is that throughout the travel, before Yeshua was born, there is no mention of Joseph's children journeying with them when Mary was pregnant. It doesn't appear that these children, before Yeshua, were Mary's children as suggested in Luke 1:34.
Just my opinion......
 
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DreGod07 said:
Additionally what I find interesting is that throughout the travel, before Yeshua was born, there is no mention of Joseph's children journeying with them when Mary was pregnant.
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There's also no mention of them in the story of Joseph and Mary going to Jerusalem for Passover when Jesus was twelve.
 
crystalonyx

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Francine said:
Most Christians believe in the Virgin Birth, because it is in scripture, and because the alternative is to allow that Jesus might not really be the Son of God.
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So do you also believe in the many other virgin births claimed in other religions?
 
logician

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DreGod07 said:
I agree....

This story sounds a lot like an eqyptian story I heard online somewhere.....:confused:
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It's sort of like the supposed Jesus came out of hiding for a few minutes when he was 12, then went back into a hiding for another 18 some odd years. Very odd, unless you consider this was another tale to attempt to create a real Jesus for the literalists.
 
sandy whitelinger

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logician said:
It's sort of like the supposed Jesus came out of hiding for a few minutes when he was 12, then went back into a hiding for another 18 some odd years. Very odd, unless you consider this was another tale to attempt to create a real Jesus for the literalists.
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Kind of how you come out occasionally in order to try and add validity to your one plank platform.
 
crystalonyx

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Of course, the gospels have the last year(s) of the supposed Jesus mission vary from 1 to 3 years, so they could not even get that straight. The gospels were not meant to stories of a real man, but stories to teach lessons. They were written in the third person, and many things "quoted" could not possibly been heard or seen by the writer. Of course, the gospels were written much later than the supposed time of CHrist and would be strictly hearsay if written about a real man. This only lends support to the obvious fact they were made up to create a new god for a new religion.
 
Dirty Penguin

Dirty Penguin

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crystalonyx said:
Of course, the gospels have the last year(s) of the supposed Jesus mission vary from 1 to 3 years, so they could not even get that straight. The gospels were not meant to stories of a real man, but stories to teach lessons. They were written in the third person, and many things "quoted" could not possibly been heard or seen by the writer. Of course, the gospels were written much later than the supposed time of CHrist and would be strictly hearsay if written about a real man. This only lends support to the obvious fact they were made up to create a new god for a new religion.
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I find your comments very interesting. I was watching some documentaries like that today.

For those that actually like history just check out these links....very interesting stuff...

Vid. 1
YouTube - Evidence That Jesus Isn't Real 1/2


Just a thought....:)

Vid. 2
YouTube - Evidence That Jesus Isn't Real 2/2
 
Francine

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logician said:
It's sort of like the supposed Jesus came out of hiding for a few minutes when he was 12, then went back into a hiding for another 18 some odd years. Very odd, unless you consider this was another tale to attempt to create a real Jesus for the literalists.
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We only know one thing from George Washington's childhood, that when he was about twelve he chopped down a cherry tree, was caught, and admitted the deed. Very odd, unless you consider that this was another tale to attempt to create a real George Washington for the literalists.
 
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Francine said:
We only know one thing from George Washington's childhood, that when he was about twelve he chopped down a cherry tree, was caught, and admitted the deed. Very odd, unless you consider that this was another tale to attempt to create a real George Washington for the literalists.
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Jesus and George both existed, and fanciful tales are told about both of them.
 
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