"the walking dead"

[viole]

Matthew 27:51-3*describes the resurrection of many godly people who exited the cemetery on Good Friday and returned to Jerusalem where they were seen by many people, earthquake and rocks breaking in half. If true, this event would have stunned all of Jerusalem, unquestionably been documented by numerous sources, as well as other gospels and in terms of shock value would have dwarfed even the resurrection of Jesus. Yet nowhere else but in Matthew does anyone speaks of this resurrection-related miracle. if its not literal then how to determine when it is... personal preference i take it..

i always wondered why the disciples were initially so skeptical about Jesus resurrection, when His "death" caused so many resurrections. Not to talk of earthquakes and rocks being broken in half, and other amazing things.

The author here seems to make a dramatic point that Jesus was indeed divine, while expecting us to believe that the disciples did not buy it, for some reason.

I mean, if I were a disciple of X, and X tells me that He will die to return the third day, and at the time of X death all those things happened, I would probably get a cam to record His more than expected return.

Ciao

- viole

 

[paarsurrey]

Alright, I rise to that challenge. I have a list here of ancient history books, including Roman historians, Jewish historians and early Church History. Just remember that secular historians are going to dismiss these accounts from the get go.

In other words you don't have any reliable history sources to quote that the historians accept accept.
Regards

 

[Brian Schuh]

In other words you don't have any reliable history sources to quote that the historians accept accept.
Regards

I'm not home right now. I got a list of books. It is a bibliography to a manuscript that might be published. There are no footnotes to cite chapters and verses and things like that. I could give you a copy of the bibliography of all the ancient books used to show that Biblical prophecy has already been fulfilled. Do you want to read all these books just to get a few passages? When I get home, I post 'em.

 

[paarsurrey]

I'm not home right now. I got a list of books. It is a bibliography to a manuscript that might be published. There are no footnotes to cite chapters and verses and things like that. I could give you a copy of the bibliography of all the ancient books used to show that Biblical prophecy has already been fulfilled. Do you want to read all these books just to get a few passages? When I get home, I post 'em.

All ancient books that narrate some mythical events are not books of history that Historians would accept as history books. For instance Gospels are not books of history though these narrate accounts happened to Jesus,yet these never happened in real life, and hence these are mythical never to be relied upon.

Regards

 

[Brian Schuh]

All ancient books that narrate some mythical events are not books of history that Historians would accept as history books. For instance Gospels are not books of history though these narrate accounts happened to Jesus,yet these never happened in real life, and hence these are mythical never to be relied upon.

Regards

So your answer is that you don't want to read all these books. A lot of people need citations to the passages in these books, because they don't have the time or don't want to take the time to look at some myths that historians found important to include in their histories. They weren't myths, just accounts if some strange things people saw that no one could explain.

 

[paarsurrey]

paarsurrey said: ↑
All ancient books that narrate some mythical events are not books of history that Historians would accept as history books. For instance Gospels are not books of history though these narrate accounts happened to Jesus,yet these never happened in real life, and hence these are mythical never to be relied upon.

Regards

So your answer is that you don't want to read all these books. A lot of people need citations to the passages in these books, because they don't have the time or don't want to take the time to look at some myths that historians found important to include in their histories. They weren't myths, just accounts if some strange things people saw that no one could explain.

All ancient books are not books of history, there are myth collectors and myth mongers, they don't make a book of history. A book of history records the event that occurred in real life.

Regards

 

[Brian Schuh]

paarsurrey said: ↑
All ancient books that narrate some mythical events are not books of history that Historians would accept as history books. For instance Gospels are not books of history though these narrate accounts happened to Jesus,yet these never happened in real life, and hence these are mythical never to be relied upon.

Regards


All ancient books are not books of history, there are myth collectors and myth mongers, they don't make a book of history. A book of history records the event that occurred in real life.

Regards

Again I'll say this, a history book (a book of mostly history, actual events) might tell a myth for some reason that the historian finds it important to mention. Also not every account that can't be explained is actually.

 

[Brian Schuh]

Again I'll say this, a history book (a book of mostly history, actual events) might tell a myth for some reason that the historian finds it important to mention. Also not every account that can't be explained is actually a myth.

 

[paarsurrey]

The author here seems to make a dramatic point that Jesus was indeed divine, while expecting us to believe that the disciples did not buy it, for some reason.

I agree with you.
The disciple did not believe that Jesus had died on the Cross.
Regards

 

[Brian Schuh]

In other words you don't have any reliable history sources to quote that the historians accept accept.
Regards

Tacitus, the Histories 5.13.
Cassius Dio, Roman History 63.16
Suetonius, Lives of the Twelve Caesars. 6.19.

There you go.

And just because an American history book says Washington threw a coin across a river, which is obviously a myth, doesn't invalidate the whole book as history. Same with Roman history.

The book of Daniel and Jesus in Mathew 24 predict that at that time, the sign of the son of man would appear in the sky and many would be resurrected. So it is no surprise to me that historians record exactly what was prophesied for that year.

Look at my thread, the Book of Daniel fulfilled.

 

[Revoltingest]

Dang, Morgan!
That is one helluva way to take out the enemy.

Spoiler: Grisly

The attacker is on top of Morgan, beating him in the head.
But the attacker has a belly wound.
Morgan reaches into it, & pulls out the guy's intestines!
End of fight.