The Westernization of Iraq

[Cooky]

Is it not? Who went to war in the 90s? who went to Iraq after 2001? As far as my recollections go, that was America

And that translates into Iraqi's wanting to live an Americanized lifestyle? How does that work?

...Please explain that one to me.

 

[Cooky]

@Amanaki, what is it you like about Iraqi culture?

 

[Spirit of Light]

And that translates into Iraqi's wanting to live an Americanized lifestyle? How does that work?

...Please explain that one to me.

America put their people in charge and the military personal make their change to the country over time.

 

[Spirit of Light]

@Amanaki, what is it you like about Iraqi culture?

The food. The story tellings, the way they dress, the friendliness i experience there when i visited their country. Being invited in to their homes for dinner or just a tea. I like food markeds there.

 

[Shad]

America put their people in charge and the military personal make their change to the country over time.

An assertion to back an assertion. You know people can make their own choice right? America isn't forcing anyone to go clubbing. You just sound bitter that perhaps a culture is fading or changing in a way you do not like. Is your own culture fading? Projection perhaps?

 

[Spirit of Light]

An assertion to back an assertion. You know people can make their own choice right? America isn't forcing anyone to go clubbing. You just sound bitter that perhaps a culture is fading or changing in a way you do not like. Is your own culture fading? Projection perhaps?

I dont follow Norwegian Culture because i dont like it. Most of my cultural view come from Asia.

 

[Shad]

I dont follow Norwegian Culture because i dont like it. Most of my cultural view come from Asia.

So cultural isolation turned into projection.

 

[Spirit of Light]

So cultural isolation turned into projection.

Who made cultural isolation?
Personally, i do not like the culture of Western countries but the culture from Asia and the Middle East do interest me. Not sure where that leads to isolation or projection of something it is not

 

[Shad]

Who made cultural isolation?

As you are minority in the nation. Norway isn't an Asian culture.

Personally, i do not like the culture of Western countries but the culture from Asia and the Middle East do interest me. Not sure where that leads to isolation or projection of something it is not

That your dislike is being projected into an assertion that people can not choose what they want to embrace. You are free to embrace whatever culture you want yet you think the Iraqis are too stupid to do the same. All are being led by the nose to take part in a culture not of their own choice. That is nonsense.

 

[Spirit of Light]

As you are minority in the nation. Norway isn't an Asian culture.



That your dislike is being projected into an assertion that people can not choose what they want to embrace. You are free to embrace whatever culture you want yet you think the Iraqis are too stupid to do the same. All are being led by the nose to take part in a culture not of their own choice. That is nonsense.

I do not feel like a minority, I have not come across one Norwegian person hating me for being Buddhist or living more like Asian style.
But as soon I say I also lie the middle east culture, then i get hated by many. I don't understand that. Liking a culture does not mean one supports terror or other crimes.
Disliking a Culture or political/ military leadership from a country does not mean one hate everyone in that country.

 

[Shad]

I do not feel like a minority, I have not come across one Norwegian person hating me for being Buddhist or living more like Asian style.

Demographic minority not oppressed minority.

But as soon I say I also lie the middle east culture, then i get hated by many. I don't understand that.

That is just xenophobia if they are reacting to a general statement rather than a specific. People fill in the blanks of a general statement with specifics from their head. Just to use an example. One can point out differences and positives of different family structures without embracing the negative ideas. Multi-generation families in proximity compared to "leave the nest" ideas in the West. Elders being cared for by family vs being placed in a care home.

Liking a culture does not mean one supports terror or other crimes.

That is the filling in the blank from people's head. ME cultures are not monolithic. Heck whole nations can not even make that claim.

Disliking a Culture or political/ military leadership from a country does not mean one hate everyone in that country.

Xenophobia and tribalism does that.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Demographic minority not oppressed minority.



That is just xenophobia if they are reacting to a general statement rather than a specific. People fill in the blanks of a general statement with specifics from their head. Just to use an example. One can point out differences and positives of different family structures without embracing the negative ideas. Multi-generation families in proximity compared to "leave the nest" ideas in the West. Elders being cared for by family vs being placed in a care home.



That is the filling in the blank from people's head. ME cultures are not monolithic. Heck whole nations can not even make that claim.



Xenophobia and tribalism does that.

Well, then a lot of Americans must be xenophobic since they dislike Muslims or middle east culture so much they want to destroy all Muslims and their culture,

 

[Shad]

Well, then a lot of Americans must be xenophobic since they dislike Muslims or middle east culture so much they want to destroy all Muslims and their culture,

A lot of people are xenophobic especially when religions are involved. A lot of views can be used to justify the idea; politics, religion.

 

[Spirit of Light]

A lot of people are xenophobic especially when religions are involved.

I don't understand why people are afraid of religion, It is people who pretend to be a part of a certain religion, and actually not following its teachings that is dangerous. The rest of spiritual and religious people who do their very best to be good people are not a threat to society at all.

And for those who do not follow a religion why bother with what religion teaches anyway?

 

[shmogie]

When Iraq invaded Iran, did the USA bring down the hammer?

You know the answer to the question.
Tom

Iran had the ability to fight back, and Iran has been our enemy since 1979.

Nothing better than two enemies exhausting themselves for eight years in a fight that changed nothing.

Kuwait is a tiny country, and had absolutely no hope in defending itself from Iraq.

Kuwait, to a greater or lesser extent has always been friendly to the US.

Two totally different situations with different players.

Apples and oranges

 

[shmogie]

A lot of people are xenophobic especially when religions are involved. A lot of views can be used to justify the idea; politics, religion.[/QUO

Saddam was a proxy of the US government.
That part is clear.
Reagan/Bush funded him, armed him, gave him intel, protected him from the UN.
Mostly Bush, I suspect that Reagan(famously a 'hands off' president) probably didn't realize the disaster Bush was creating in the Gulf.

Frankly, it was Bush who was the psychopath. Hussein was just easily lead.
Tom

Evidence of your conspiracy theory ?

 

[shmogie]

Is it not? Who went to war in the 90s? who went to Iraq after 2001? As far as my recollections go, that was America

So, you were a supporter of Iraqś invasion and rape of Kuwait. You also supported Iraqs invasion of Iran apparently.

 

[Spirit of Light]

So, you were a supporter of Iraqś invasion and rape of Kuwait. You also supported Iraqs invasion of Iran apparently.

Did I say that? I am 100% against America military and its invasion of other countries, but did I say I support Iraq when they invade other countries? No, I did not say that.
I do not support any military invasion or military use, no matter what country it come from

 

[shmogie]

Did I say that? I am 100% against America military and its invasion of other countries, but did I say I support Iraq when they invade other countries? No, I did not say that.
I do not support any military invasion or military use, no matter what country it come

You are a pacifist then. People who enjoy the freedoms and rights that others bought for them, with their blood.

When there is danger, you expect others to defend you, OK, got it

 

[Spirit of Light]

I do not expect others to defend me, and yes i am a pacifist.