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The witchhunt continues...

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
A lie is a lie no matter how pretty you dress it up. 100 years from now, take the DNA of the remains and you will know if it is male or female

And analyzing other artifacts of that person like clothes, writing, videos, pictures, and genetic information beyond the Xs and ys may tell us whether they identified socially as a man or a woman.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
It is a no win question. Those that oppose trans people but deny the science end up either having to say that they would crave penis or that the are not a woman. The lesson is do not deny the science that supports those that oppose your beliefs.
There is no science :D Where is the trans in the rest of mammalian family? Does a Walrus wonder? Does a stallion try to have babies?
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
And analyzing other artifacts of that person like clothes, writing, videos, pictures, and genetic information beyond the Xs and ys may tell us whether they identified socially as a man or a woman.
I can identify as a walrus, have a pet walrus, have multiple walrus figurines, toys and walrus stuffed animal....

I will never be a walrus however much I would like to identify as one.

It sound more like a traumatic experience that I haven't been able to cope with. I think we should be lovingly trying to help to find out what the root cause is and get some help.

:hugehug:

With real heartfelt love.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I am so used to your form of connecting. :D It has become quite hilarious. Thank you for bringing a smile to my face.
When someone runs away from questions that show them to be wrong that is the same as owning up to being wrong when one cannot be that honest.

Why do trans people scare you so much? It is a real issue. Why would you condemn people to live in bodies that they are not comfortable in? No one is saying that you have to have sex with any of these people. The odds of a mutual attraction would be rather low in your case. Or in mine. I am an old geezer too. All that people are asking is that others let them be. Is that too much?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I can identify as a walrus, have a pet walrus, have multiple walrus figurines, toys and walrus stuffed animal....

I will never be a walrus however much I would like to identify as one.

It sound more like a traumatic experience that I haven't been able to cope with. I think we should be lovingly trying to help to find out what the root cause is and get some help.

:hugehug:

With real heartfelt love.
I am betting that this is a lie. You seem to be forgetting that medical science backs up the claims of trans people.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Am I missing something with Mulvaney?

Conservatives see her as a symbol of societal moral decay and have crowned her "Queen of LGBTQ+" (or King, I don't think they've figured out the difference between sex and gender yet) and boycotted their favorite cheapo, mass-produced swill over it because some guy that identifies as a child chunk of mineral matter wanted to show how much of a big boy he (or it? Do rocks have gender?) was by cosplaying Rambo and shooting up a bunch of the swill.

In the collective erection of their moral outrage and arousal at seeing a middle aged musician handling his gun, they forgot that most other beers are owned by companies that support LGBTQ+ stuff because it is financially sound to do so. They also don't realize that famous people do stupid stuff to garner publicity and Robert James Ritchie, I mean Kid Rock (the name he identifies as and no one seems outraged or confused by that) may not even care about sex and gender issues and inadvertently made Dylan Mulvaney very famous.

Long answer to a question you may not have needed but damn that felt good!
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
There is no science :D Where is the trans in the rest of mammalian family? Does a Walrus wonder? Does a stallion try to have babies?
That is denial and strawmanning. The science has been presented to you before. And when dealing with a person that refuses to debate honestly they lose the right to demand evidence. If you can own up to your latest falsehoods I will gladly provide evidence for you.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
There is none other that opinions stated on the bases of the appeal to authority... which violates empirical and verifiable science.
Tell us that you do not know how logical fallacies work again. Oh my. Stay away from handguns if you value your toes.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Conservatives see her as a symbol of societal moral decay and have crowned her "Queen of LGBTQ+" (or King, I don't think they've figured out the difference between sex and gender yet) and boycotted their favorite cheapo, mass-produced swill over it because some guy that identifies as a child chunk of mineral matter wanted to show how much of a big boy he (or it? Do rocks have gender?) was by cosplaying Rambo and shooting up a bunch of the swill.

In the collective erection of their moral outrage and arousal at seeing a middle aged musician handling his gun, they forgot that most other beers are owned by companies that support LGBTQ+ stuff because it is financially sound to do so. They also don't realize that famous people do stupid stuff to garner publicity and Robert James Ritchie, I mean Kid Rock (the name he identifies as and no one seems outraged or confused by that) may not even care about sex and gender issues and inadvertently made Dylan Mulvaney very famous.

Long answer to a question you may not have needed but damn that felt good!
I think it simply promoting a beer with an ad that was not in the demographic the serve (wether liberal or conservative). It was a change of advertising too. It was strictly about sports - they changed directions.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
I can identify as a walrus, have a pet walrus, have multiple walrus figurines, toys and walrus stuffed animal....

I will never be a walrus however much I would like to identify as one.

You're comparing green and red apples to zucchinis here. Walruses are mammals, but "women" and "men" are human identities.

It sound more like a traumatic experience that I haven't been able to cope with. I think we should be lovingly trying to help to find out what the root cause is and get some help.

:hugehug:

With real heartfelt love.

I suppose I would believe this sincere if you hadn't previously posted:

You can package garbage real pretty but it is still garbage. A lie is a lie no matter how pretty you dress it up.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
You're comparing green and red apples to zucchinis here. Walruses are mammals, but "women" and "men" are human identities.



I suppose I would believe this sincere if you hadn't previously posted:

I think they are applicable.

The response was towards the poster and his usual attitude and not about the person who needs help. Sorry that it came across wrong.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
There is more to being a man or a woman than just body parts.

I am assuming that you are male. If I am wrong, just reverse the sexes. It we took your brain out of your body and transplanted it into a female one would you now think of yourself as a woman? If you are straight would you suddenly crave penis?

What are they? What makes someone a woman or a man?

Yes, I would think I was a woman. And no, I would not want to have sex with men.
And here, medical science seems to say that you are wrong. You do not choose the partners you want to have sex with based on your own anatomy (and you yourself just said) -- and you also do not choose how you identify based solely on your body parts, either.

You seem to be saying that your brain is "you" for some purposes, but not "you" for others. And that seems just silly, if you think about it.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I think they are applicable.

The response was towards the poster and his usual attitude and not about the person who needs help. Sorry that it came across wrong.
And there goes another irony meter. The person opposing help for others trying to claim the opposite.

Like I said, stay away from handguns. Your friends will start to call you "Stumpy" once all of your toes are gone.
 
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