The Word "Retard"

[Kilgore Trout]

You seem to have forget the actual 'retards' who may read this post, when you marched on believing everyone smiles with you!

Forgetting would be difficult.

 

[Timothy Bryce]

Well, I would change my adjectives to suit those around me, and if they absolutely didn't want me to use adjectives towards them, I would do so.
Whats wrong with that?

I don't see anything wrong with that. Seems like a very considerate and accommodating way to interact with people. Once again, however, it boils back down to navigating your way through a context in which any given word is used rather than demonizing the words themselves.

In a public setting where people may overhear fragments of people's conversations without necessarily being involved in them appears to be a setting where that level of sensitivity would be difficult to understand. I remember someone telling me about some woman who had lived to be 100 or something who was being interviewed and asked about what life advice should be understood given all the experience she had; he answer was something along the lines of "mind your own business".

 

[Skwim]

The basic logic behind being offended by a term is retarded. Names mean exactly what they mean. If I say "@Revoltingest is retarded because he puts mustard on his haggis," I'm not actually stating that he has suffered some form of retardation in the development of his mental faculties, I'm saying I find his behaviour outlandish.

So you equate being retarded with behaving outlandish. Interesting.

If I called it 'boorish' or 'flugerbongy' it would mean the same thing, it just wouldn't offend the retards who think their assignation of term reference is the only valid one.

Let me get this straight then. Although retarded, as applied to people, denotes an intellectual developmental disorder, this disorder brings to mind disagreeable and even obnoxious human characteristics. Interesting.

I'm with George Carlin on this one. You can call yourself a height restricted, weight disadvantaged, orally fixated, alternate lifestyle choosing person all you want. You're still just a short, fat, bone smoker. There's nothing wrong with the word retarded, it describes the physical process of failed development. Jesus didn't heal the handi-capable, he healed cripples. You know, people who have been crippled by physical injury or birth defects?

It's one thing to call a disabled person a name that truly refers to or reflects that disability, and quite another to use that same name to denigrate another who has no such disability; suggesting that their boorishness, for example, is on par with having an intellectual developmental disorder.

That said, I wouldn't call a retarded person a retard. There's no use in being mean. A little couth never killed anyone.

In other words, despite siding with Carlin, you don't really side with him. Interesting.

 

[Wirey]

So you equate being retarded with behaving outlandish. Interesting.

If this is genuinely how you interpreted what I wrote, then I don't think we're talking about the same thing.

 

[Skwim]

If this is genuinely how you interpreted what I wrote, then I don't think we're talking about the same thing.

You said:

"If I say "Revoltingest is retarded because he puts mustard on his haggis," I'm not actually stating that he has suffered some form of retardation in the development of his mental faculties, I'm saying I find his behaviour outlandish."​

Or in short

"If I say "Revoltingest is retarded because he puts mustard on his haggis, I'm saying I find his behaviour outlandish."​

Shorter yet.

If I say "Revoltingest is retarded [it's because]I find his behaviour outlandish
​

In essence.

Outlandish behavior = retardation​

 

[Wirey]

You said:

"If I say "Revoltingest is retarded because he puts mustard on his haggis," I'm not actually stating that he has suffered some form of retardation in the development of his mental faculties, I'm saying I find his behaviour outlandish."​

Or in short

"If I say "Revoltingest is retarded because he puts mustard on his haggis, I'm saying I find his behaviour outlandish."​

Shorter yet.

If I say "Revoltingest is retarded [it's because]I find his behaviour outlandish
​

In essence.

Outlandish behavior = retardation​

No, outlandish behavior =retardation OR Boorish OR Flugerbongy OR whatever word I assign. It means the same thing provided that's my intent. If I say "Being a Blue Jays fan makes you a retard", I'm not stating that actual retardation begins when you start rooting for those losers, I'm saying I don't like the Jays and hope KC crushes them. If I say "Being hetero is retarded", again, an opinion framed with that word based on a sexual proclivity. Now, according to your earlier breakdown of my statement, I think retardation = baseball fans and heterosexuals. If that's genuinely hard for you to understand, I'd suggest being less concerned with how you appear to others, ya retard.

Retard = attractive. This is easy if you ignore what the other guy is actually saying.

 

[BenTheBeliever]

This is a subject I wear close to my chest. I have what you call a LD problem and was in the MR classes in school. Growing up my mom raised my around handicap people cause that was what the she did for a living for 31 years until she got sick in 2013. The word Retard was thrown at me a lot growing up. Kids would call me that in school. Words do hurt us. For some it might not seem like that much of a big deal but when you are dealing with people I.Q. like myself it is a very big deal. It does not hurt people to be asked not to say that word. You don't go up to a black person and call them the n word do you? I sure as heck don't. It is that same respect. It is hard for people to understand unless they are in the other person's shoes.

 

[s13ep]

This is a subject I wear close to my chest. I have what you call a LD problem and was in the MR classes in school. Growing up my mom raised my around handicap people cause that was what the she did for a living for 31 years until she got sick in 2013. The word Retard was thrown at me a lot growing up. Kids would call me that in school. Words do hurt us. For some it might not seem like that much of a big deal but when you are dealing with people I.Q. like myself it is a very big deal. It does not hurt people to be asked not to say that word. You don't go up to a black person and call them the n word do you? I sure as heck don't. It is that same respect. It is hard for people to understand unless they are in the other person's shoes.

I'm on your side and there are others who are, too. I agree that people like yourself, shouldn't be on the receiving end of evil magick. In time...

 

[BenTheBeliever]

I'm on your side and there are others who are, too. I agree that people like yourself, shouldn't be on the receiving end of evil magick. In time...

I truly don't think it is asking for much for them to respect that word is bad. But what can I say the world is a cruel place thus that saying only the strong survive.

 

[s13ep]

I truly don't think it is asking for much for them to respect that word is bad. But what can I say the world is a cruel place thus that saying only the strong survive.

You are stronger than them.

 

[BenTheBeliever]

You are stronger than them.

I don't know about that. I don't measure how strong I am to other people. I just happen to have opinions like everyone else. People need to always realize words do hurt. For some people it hurt so much they kill themselves. I don't think it is asking for much for people to respect and love people and realize that everyone are different and being different is not a bad thing at all.

 

[savagewind]

Retard and retarded are not the same word and the meaning is not the same.

 

[BenTheBeliever]

Retard and retarded are not the same word and the meaning is not the same.

That does not matter it is still viewed as hate speech and should not be allowed to be used. If we grow past calling black people names and other subjects like that then why can't we as a world grow past using the R word? No way shape or form should it be allowed to be said. JMHO

 

[savagewind]

That does not matter it is still viewed as hate speech and should not be allowed to be used. If we grow past calling black people names and other subjects like that then why can't we as a world grow past using the R word? No way shape or form should it be allowed to be said. JMHO

I agree with you.
I am telling THEM it is a different word.

 

[BenTheBeliever]

I agree with you.
I am telling THEM it is a different word.

I know. His is just a subject i am very pasionite about.

 

[savagewind]

Retarded means the person needs more help than usual. Retard means a person who can't be helped.
Retard is a NOUN.
Retarded is an ADJECTIVE.

 

[savagewind]

google begs to differ.

Google calls retard a noun and retarded an adjective.

 

[savagewind]

Nouns and adjectives are different types of words. Please notice the word "different".
An adjective describes something. A noun defines something.

 

[savagewind]

I understand that the impact on a person is similar whether being called retarded or a retard. But I think retarded describes the dumb acts someone does and retard describes the person himself. See the difference?

 

[savagewind]

Actually, it means someone who suffers from mental retardation, and although it is most true most people who are retarded do need extra help, you are misconceiving the word by giving it a loose and not-medical definition.

Factually incorrect.

I am not talking about what retarded means. I am talking about what the person who SAYS it means.
I do something stupid and someone says, "your retarded", and I have to agree. Someone says, "retard", and that is just WRONG. It is the difference between describing what I do and telling me what I am.