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To speak, to speculate.Afraid of what?
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To speak, to speculate.Afraid of what?
To speak, to speculate.
Well God's wrath, you know. He isn't indifferent.The bible genesis, noahs flood and exodus, murder of firstborn
Humans are free moral agents, meaning we have the ability to make choices. The animal has no similar choice, but rather they follow instinct; plan. Humans have lost instinct ,in exchange for choice.
As an analogy, say you were part of AI; artificial intelligence, development team. The goal of AI, is for a computer program and hardware, that can make its own choices, and not just be an automaton that obeys its programing, 100%. It supposed to have free will, and be able to make decisions that are not anticipated. This is how you will know the AI is alive.
Since destruction is easier than building, the first baby steps of the AI, will be simple and often destructive. The two year old child can destroy your 1000 piece puzzle, much easier that it can help you build it. On the one hand, you will marvel at its autonomous behavior, but on the other, if it started to erase the code, you would be pissed. Yet, you would try to be patient, since this is the growing pains of the AI.
Once the AI gets over the hump, and starts to become more constructive than destructive, then the marvel combines with your sense of pride in the new invention. The Old Testament God had to deal with a new AI firmware, within the human brain, that gave it autonomy. This autonomy was good, but the growing pains began very destructive, like the terrible two's of childhood. This created mixed feelings and frustrating days in the earth lab.
By the time of Jesus, the AI had finally stabilized; age four, and was on the upswing, but not yet perfect. Forgiveness of sins is now more acceptable, since the destruction of code, now appears to lead to the AI, writing its own code. This is marvelous and requires we withhold judgment and be patient.
Well God's wrath, you know. He isn't indifferent.
It isn't caused by God. People bring it on themselves.Oh, not indifferent enough to cause genocide and murder children.
Could you love a guy like that?
How many have considered that God cannot be love, as the scriptures indicate, if He is not displeased with wrongdoing, does not exercise justice. and have plans to eliminate injustice and evil ?
It isn't caused by God. People bring it on themselves.
People who earned God's wrath in this case.So it was people who commited genocide?
People who murdered their innocent children?
People who earned God's wrath in this case.
A baby or any creature not capable of choosing right from wrong indeed cannot incur the wrath of God. But they can die. All in God's plan. Besides that, it is widely believed that if this happens it is due to the sin of someone near. Some Muslims, for instance, believe that if one person does something bad he may be punished with all his family members and even friends or aquintances.Every single plant, animal and human including innocent children and inborn?
How does a fetus earn your gods wrath?
How does a suckling babe earn your gods wrath?
A baby or any creature not capable of choosing right from wrong indeed cannot incur the wrath of God. But they can die. All in God's plan. Besides that, it is widely believed that if this happens it is due to the sin of someone near. Some Muslims, for instance, believe that if one person does something bad he may be punished with all his family members and even friends or aquintances.
I wouldn't readily mix the Bible in it.According to the bible they can be murdered by your god
Not exactly, in my opinion. I only mentioned that some believe it happens/can happen. If it does happen I don't believe it is because it is just, but because it is part of God's plan. Many of these stories you speak of are warnings for all human kind.And punishing others for a crime they didnt commit is just?
I wouldn't readily mix the Bible in it.
Not exactly, in my opinion. I only mentioned that some believe it happens/can happen. If it does happen I don't believe it is because it is just, but because it is part of God's plan. Many of these stories you speak of are warnings for all human kind.
It isn't caused by God. People bring it on themselves.
He created men responsible.The fault of the fallible nature of humans should not cause the wrath of God, since God is responsible for the Creation of humanity as they are.
He created men responsible.
He gave them a choice.He also created humanity irresponsible.
So he created irresponsibility as something that we were free to choose?He gave them a choice.