Theistic evolution as part of a possible simulation with a non-obvious intelligent force

[shunyadragon]

Babbges difference engine can still process any modern instructions, just very slowly and parallel processing is just linear processing broken into streams of linear that can be done at the same time and recombined. Fractals and chaos simulations are time intensive but not something different.

Possibly being able handle large amounts slowly over a very long period of time does not resolve the problems. For modern supercomputers the Weather prediction problem comes to mind. You have to store,analyse and compare hundreds of years of data and track contemporary data world wide and atmospheric data atmany altitudes, Another problems is the contemporary computers being able to model problems with hundreds of variable, .store and compare all of the above.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

I do not believe in the Roman Church (RCC) nor scientism




Nothing of the above makes any sense.

Your claims about these topics didn’t make any sense to me, either,

So I guess we are in agreement.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

It was not a contemporary view involving the subject of the the thread, Roman church holidays are not the subject of the thread.

Your over stating the simple wording of the text of my post and not addressing the post meaning as usual. Nothing here to prove ????anything.Uniqueness???? Please address the post and not picky about the wording.

I am not trying to prove any such thing as uniqueness. In fact we have not got beyond the plain reading o my posts without trivial concerns.

Please simply respond to my posts in context

It makes a hell of a difference when you explicitly claim uniqueness by use of a definite article.

How can we even communicate if you won’t say what you mean?

Am I supposed to read your mind?

 

[shunyadragon]

But isn't it limited to how much memory it can address? e.g. whether it is 16 bit, etc?

It is far more than just 16 bit.

Again . . .

Possibly being able handle large amounts slowly over a very long period of time does not resolve the problems. For modern supercomputers and Quantum computers the Weather prediction problem comes to mind. You have to store,analyse and compare hundreds if not thousands of years of data of years of data and track contemporary data world wide and atmospheric data atmany altitudes, Another problems is the contemporary computers being able to model problems with hundreds of variable, .store and compare all of the above.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

Possibly being able handle large amounts slowly over a very long period of time does not resolve the problems. For modern supercomputers the Weather prediction problem comes to mind. You have to store,analyse and compare hundreds of years of data and track contemporary data world wide and atmospheric data atmany altitudes, Another problems is the contemporary computers being able to model problems with hundreds of variable, .store and compare all of the above.

We don’t know how to predict the weather.

But you can win a million dollars if you……..oh, never mind.

What will the weather be on June 4, 2025?

You’re thinking about plate tectonics.

That’s where we have actual retrodictions and predictions.

 

[excreationist]

There’s nothing that today’s computers can do that the Analytic Engine couldn’t do. It was just steam powered, that’s all.

You could run ChatGPT on it.

But isn't it limited to how much memory it can address? e.g. whether it is 16 bit, etc?

It is far more than just 16 bit.

The Analytic Engine has memory addresses that are "far more than just 16 bit"? I guess you meant ChatGPT? That is my point.

 

[shunyadragon]

Your claims about these topics didn’t make any sense to me, either,

So I guess we are in agreement.

How does religious festivals of the Roman Church relate to the subject of the thread?

My references directly related to the subject of the thread,

 

[Pogo]

Possibly being able handle large amounts slowly over a very long period of time does not resolve the problems. For modern supercomputers the Weather prediction problem comes to mind. You have to store,analyse and compare hundreds of years of data and track contemporary data world wide and atmospheric data atmany altitudes, Another problems is the contemporary computers being able to model problems with hundreds of variable, .store and compare all of the above.

Yup, modern computers are quantitatively different, that is not in question, but they are not qualitatively different.
They can still issue a weather forecast, it just may take a few thousand years or do it folding at home style in which case I will just dig out a barometer.

 

[MJ Bailey]

I honestly did not read all of the posts, however I strongly disagree. Just like energy, knowledge (logic) is continuum: therefore changing form however consistent.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

How does religious festivals of the Roman Church relate to the subject of the thread?

My references directly related to the subject of the thread,

You are the one arguing on the basis of this dude’s theology, not me.

I never even heard of your source before you provided it.

I don’t have much of an opinion one way or the other.

Why should I?

He’s your expert, not mine.

I got my own experts, who you refuse to even consider, as their consideration is against your religion.

Maybe you are dismissing your own expert to hastily?

If we can’t use my experts, and we can’t use your experts, who’s left?

The Holy Bible?

You aren’t leaving the rest of us many options.

All you do is discredit the experts.

You discredit my experts.

You discredit your own experts.

This is Scientism, not Science.

 

[Pogo]

I honestly did not read all of the posts, however I strongly disagree. Just like energy, knowledge (logic) is continuum: therefore changing form however consistent.

Are you saying knowledge is logic or energy is a continuum or conserved or ?

 

[shunyadragon]

We don’t know how to predict the weather.

But you can win a million dollars if you……..oh, never mind.
What will the weather be on June 4, 2025?

You are apparently intentionally ignorant of Meteorology. This site is about 6th grade school level.

How Meteorologists Predict the Weather: Methods & Process - Lesson | Study.com

Discover the methods and processes meteorologists use to predict the weather. Investigate why meteorologists predict weather and why forecasts are...

study.com

forecasting tools - satellite, radar, and surface maps (which show high and low-pressure areas). These tools help meteorologists to learn the patterns of the atmosphere and why weather happens. forecasting models - show meteorologists different scenarios of what could happen with the weather.

You’re thinking about plate tectonics.

No, butI will discuss plate tectonics if you wish,I have over 50 years as a working as a Geologist,

That’s where we have actual reproduction and prediction.

Mixing subjects. Weather prediction is not plate tectonics. I am a geologist and I have worked on many predictive computer models in geology, and I have studied plate tectonics,butpredictive models for plate tectonics are not near as complex

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

You are apparently intentionally ignorant of Meteorology. This site is about 6th grade school level.

How Meteorologists Predict the Weather: Methods & Process - Lesson | Study.com

Discover the methods and processes meteorologists use to predict the weather. Investigate why meteorologists predict weather and why forecasts are...

study.com

forecasting tools - satellite, radar, and surface maps (which show high and low-pressure areas). These tools help meteorologists to learn the patterns of the atmosphere and why weather happens. forecasting models - show meteorologists different scenarios of what could happen with the weather.



No, butI will discuss plate tectonics if you wish,I have over 50 years as a working as a Geologist,

Mixing subjects. Weather prediction is not plate tectonics. I am a geologist and I have worked on many predictive computer models in geology, and I have studied plate tectonics,butpredictive models for plate tectonics are not near as complex

Please pardon my ignorance and take pity on me.

I’m not omniscient like you.

I don’t know how to use the information you so graciously provided me with to do the calculation myself.

Would you please lower yourself to do the calculation for me, so that I might learn from the great one?

Again,

What will the weather be on June 4, 2025?

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

No, butI will discuss plate tectonics if you wish,I have over 50 years as a working as a Geologist,

Cool.

That’s a start.

It’s good to see you come out of your shell.

Remember this offer, OK?

 

[shunyadragon]

You are the one arguing on the basis of this dude’s theology, not me.

I am not arguing from ne any one or anybodies theology at present.

I never even heard of your source before you provided it.

Apparently you do not consider recent scientific sources,

I don’t have much of an opinion one way or the other.

Why should I?

He’s your expert, not mine.

He is not my expert. I post simple peer reviewed articles recognized as reliable science.

I got my own experts, who you refuse to even consider, as their consideration is against your religion.

No references provided and so far there has been no consideration of my religion

Maybe you are dismissing your own expert to hastily?

No

If we can’t use my experts, and we can’t use your experts, who’s left?

Universalist(notUU} perspective without clinging to any one or the other.

The Holy Bible?

Ancient tribal text without provenance.

You aren’t leaving the rest of us many options.

All options are open as far as I am concerned.

All you do is discredit the experts.

So far you have to be specific on which I disagree.

You discredit my experts.

Be specific.

You discredit your own experts.

No

This is Scientism, not Science.

No documented, Not scientism as defined.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

No references provided and so far there has been no consideration of my religion

You’ve discounted several of my sources, already.

You called my sources “idiotic”, or find some other excuses to ignore them.

Then you use the idiocy of my sources to claim that I haven’t given you any.

Do you realize how silly that is?

I respected your source.

Enough to go looking for more information from the very same source.

I’ve never seen you do that.

Why not?

 

[shunyadragon]

You’ve discounted several of my sources, already.

You called my sources “idiotic”, or find some other excuses to ignore them.

Then you use the idiocy of my sources to claim that I haven’t given you any.

You have not given any sources relevant to the subject of the thread, Yes, wil lreject"idiotic Youtube sources that do not have any relevance to the subject of the threads.

If our dialogue is to be productive and meaningful you needtoprovidecompetentreferencesthatIcanrespondto,

Do you realize how silly that is?

Yes "idiotic" OFFTOPIC Youtube videos are silly and boring.

I respected your source.

Enough to go looking for more information from the very same source.

OK,my sources were directly related to the subject of the thread.

I’ve never seen you do that.

Why not?

. . . because your Youtube sources have no relevance to the subject of the thread.

 

[shunyadragon]

Please pardon my ignorance and take pity on me.

I’m not omniscient like you.

Sarcasm will not get past your statement "We don’t know how to predict the weather."

You are apparently intentionally ignorant of Meteorology. This site is about 6th grade school level.

How Meteorologists Predict the Weather: Methods & Process - Lesson | Study.com
Discover the methods and processes meteorologists use to predict the weather. Investigate why meteorologists predict weather and why forecasts are...
study.com

forecasting tools - satellite, radar, and surface maps (which show high and low-pressure areas). These tools help meteorologists to learn the patterns of the atmosphere and why weather happens. forecasting models - show meteorologists different scenarios of what could happen with the weather,

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

You have not given any sources relevant to the subject of the thread, Yes, wil lreject"idiotic Youtube sources that do not have any relevance to the subject of the threads.

If our dialogue is to be productive and meaningful you needtoprovidecompetentreferencesthatIcanrespondto,

You’re making it quite clear that your religion will continue to force you to reject my sources in the present and future, as your religion has already done in the past.

I give up.

That’s on you and your religion.

 

[shunyadragon]

Yup, modern computers are quantitatively different, that is not in question, but they are not qualitatively different.

My argument involves both. of course you can have a whole bunch of people with pencil and paper and duplicate the calculations.

They can still issue a weather forecast, it just may take a few thousand years or do it folding at home style in which case I will just dig out a barometer.

Your beginning to get the drift of why promote ancient computers to operate anything like the supercomputer and Quantum computers today