MJFlores
Well-Known Member
I do appreciate your time and effort, but I don't think your passages are relevant to my concerns. Out of respect for your efforts I have read every scripture. So, let me clarify. Both the Tree of Knowledge and the Tree of Life existed in the Garden of Eden. By eating the fruits from the Tree of knowledge, you would possess the knowledge of Good and Evil and become Omniscient. By eating the fruits from the Tree of Life, you would become immortal. Why would a God NOT want his creation to acquire these gifts? Maybe Genesis has the answer; "Genesis 3:22, KJV: "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:". Maybe God would not want man to become immortal, but to deny him the knowledge of good and evil seems counterintuitive to me. Who is the "US" mentioned in the scripture. It sounds like a "Freudian slip" representing a government or a head of state. Remember, we are talking about an Omniscient God.
My point is, if God had allowed man access to both gifts, then no sinful act would have been committed in the Garden. Eating from the Tree of Knowledge was not an immoral, dangerous, criminal, or selfish act in itself. It was simply a disobedient act by the coercion of another God.Eve never stood a chance. If there was no disobedience, there would be no evil, no sin, and no Fall. If there was no Fall, there would be no Moses or a flood. There would be no need for Jesus to exist, or be sacrificed. There would be no need for a Heaven and Hell, And, there would be no need for a Second Coming.
I realize that hindsight is not an exact science, so bear with me. I think you again for your time, and sorry about the questions. Since I am not a Biblical Scholar, your opinions are just as valuable to me.
And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”
the Lord God was with His cherubs Genesis 3:24
His cherubs [angels] know what is good and evil.
Please take note that there was a cherub who became Satan Ezekiel 28:14
These cherubs were created holy, powerful and invincible
Yet, we have a case of Lucifer gone rogue with 1/3 of the cherubs Isaiah 14:12-15
That is why God prevented Adam and Eve from eating the Tree of Life after sinning.
If they did eat from it, then it would be a problem - He would have another form of fleshy devils
Immortal and sinful in the heart.
Eve was accountable, she know what to do - she had a choice to obey or not.
God said "never touch that and never eat that - or you're dead" something like that
Did she follow? Nope. In fact she gave some to her husband Adam.
So what happened? They became bad hombres.
Bad hombres needed to be kicked out of the Garden
and probably build a nice big beautiful wall in the southern border [joke]
just a cherub with a flaming sword Genesis 3:24
otherwise they would be undying bad hombres.
Instead, the Lord God promised Christ
That Christ will be victorious over the devil
and that Christ will be killed by the offspring of the devil
in the process Genesis 3:14-16
But the promise of Christ has to be realized in the future - far in the future.
It would have been easier if it was a Thanos like snap in which His creation would disappear
and start over as if nothing happened - and then we won't have something to discuss, right?
But God is not human and does not change his mind. Numbers 23:19; [URL='https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Samuel+15:29&version=NIV']1 Samuel 15:29[/URL]
What God said, is God - his words never fail [and the word is God] Luke 1:37
There are things he said to man that must be given to man. Genesis 1:26-31
For a while until Christ comes - separate the sheep from the goats Matthew 25:32
That would be the Real End Game