There are no mistakes in Quran

[Taylor Seraphim]

Thus you reject scholars who understand the Quran from its own merit.
And you support those who use dubious and hearsay based documents written centuries later.

Bravo.

And you reject the Torah and Bible and rely on dubious hearsay from documents written centuries later.

Bravo.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

I would like to see your research for the conclusions.

• Inaccurate Events about Muhammed in the Quran
• Quran is a Joke

Actually he said that it is a joke due to lack of evidence.

So YOU are the one that needs to provide evidence in that case.

 

[firedragon]

Actually he said that it is a joke due to lack of evidence.

So YOU are the one that needs to provide evidence in that case.

Why would you skip the first point.

Fine, I take back the second point.

 

[firedragon]

And you reject the Torah and Bible and rely on dubious hearsay from documents written centuries later.

Bravo.

We were talking about an interpretation of a particular verse IN THE QURAN. Not about Torah, Bible, and Quran.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

We were talking about an interpretation of a particular verse IN THE QURAN. Not about Torah, Bible, and Quran.

I am just saying that your holding a double standard.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Why would you skip the first point.

Fine, I take back the second point.

Do you have evidence that the events where valid?

 

[firedragon]

Do you have evidence that the events where valid?

What events?

 

[firedragon]

I am just saying that your holding a double standard.

You maybe right. But respectfully please understand that the discussion was on the Quran.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

What events?

That transpired in the Quran.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

You maybe right. But respectfully please understand that the discussion was on the Quran.

Well then his point still stands.

 

[firedragon]

I only said he say no issues with 4:34 as it was translated as it is accept as accurate by credible universities. I took courses under Sajoo not Ghani. Besides you would reject Ghani on the same grounds as you reject Sajoo. Is Taj Hashmi good enough since he also writes about the issues caused by 4:34.

What you say is is people have no issue with 4:34 as it is. Of course. They are not aware.
Sajoo and Ghani or not Arabic scholars anyway. But I am sure if you show them the verse and ask them if it can be interpreted as go away, with out looking at hadith, they would agree. Ms. Ghani is a very respected lady. I am sure she will understand the point, though you dont seem to.

What does Taj Hashmi say? Where does he disagree with my rendering. Show me.

I pointed out HD had issues with Laraba then later contradicts himself when stating both are the same...

Both are the same. If any one has the stupidity to say no, my GOd, I dont know what to say. Its the same word. It is the pronunciation of the Arabic letter Lad. Some write it Dad. Or Dhad. But its not the same as Lam, Dhal. Probably the most complicated pronunciation in the Arabic alphabet.

Now, show me they are different and how I can contradict between Laraba and Daraba, them both being the same word, same Arabic letters.

All she did was the same thing as FD

Thus, you have rejected four scholars based on one argument, they all did the same thing as me.

 

[firedragon]

That transpired in the Quran.

The question was "What events about Muhammed in the Quran".

 

[firedragon]

Well then his point still stands.

Not really.

I still want to know what events about Muhammed did he see in the Quran.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Not really.

I still want to know what events about Muhammed did he see in the Quran.

No his point that there are Muslim scholars have a different interpretation than you still stands.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

The question was "What events about Muhammed in the Quran".

Can you prove that Archangel Gabriel came to him?

 

[firedragon]

Can you prove that Archangel Gabriel came to him?

What events does the Quran have about Muhammed? Show me the verse.

By the way, I have stopped using terms like Brother and Bro, at least as much as I can so please dont be offended it a sentence sounds rude. From where I come, it is hard to construct a sentence without using words like that. But some people get anal about them.

 

[firedragon]

No his point that there are Muslim scholars have a different interpretation than you still stands.

You are talking about two different discussions.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Notice how you give no proof on how it flies in the face of all testable geological evidence.

Because I'm not a scientist. If you're really interested on learning about how the Earth formed you can use a website such as the one below and explore the various topics from there. The people who made this can more than likely explain ways how the Earth possibly formed far better than I could.

http://www.space.com/19175-how-was-earth-formed.html

I'm more inclined to trust these men because they'll have gained their learning from more than one book.

What exactly? Give proof, like i do. Before i make my apposing view.

You don't give proof. You give Quran verses which you then expect to be authoritative for non-Muslims like myself. Worse, you give your own interpretation of the Quran which you then expect to be authoritative for non-Muslims like myself. Your starting point is your belief that the Quran has no errors because it is from God, and the Quran itself says so ("We have, without doubt sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption). [15:9] ") which is circular reasoning. If that weren't the case you wouldn't be jumping through hoops trying to prove it is infallible - saying that salt & fresh water never mix while admitting that salt & fresh water do mix.

 

[Jabar]

@YmirGF You just said that it is unlikely that i would possibly understand. The same way it is unlikely that you understand what the Quran says. I never called Atheism a religion i stated beliefs, beliefs are not just in religion. How am i delusional when i say people misconcept the Quran when they clearly do. They point out an ´´error´´ but they do not know that they are making misconceptions. Just as you are. Evolution is not real. If you ask scientists about how evolution is real, there is no scientific evidence that in fact it is real. EXACTLY, you see i misconcepted about the fact that you said i used evolution. I admit it. You however misconcept the Quran and still do not admit your misconception. They are actual misconceptions but due to your arrogance you do not agree. Quran remains divine, and with no error. Until you can prove me wrong which i am 100% sure you cannot.

 

[Jabar]

@A Greased Scotsman This is a mistranslation. Right translation: Indeed we have sent down the Reminder and indeed we of it surely Guardians.