Jumi
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If they believe the weather is abnormal, but not climate change, it's a bit puzzling to me.Sorry,but this looks like hype from an endtimes publication.
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If they believe the weather is abnormal, but not climate change, it's a bit puzzling to me.Sorry,but this looks like hype from an endtimes publication.
I wondered that, too, but I didn't want to restart THAT argument. I think if you acknowledge climate change is a thing, you might have to acknowledge we need to change our behaviour and do something about it. If it's just God doing it, well, there's not much you can do, is there? Burn all the coal you like, all those droughts and forest fires aren't your fault and you can't do anything to stop them any way.If they believe the weather is abnormal, but not climate change, it's a bit puzzling to me.
We have kept on the watch since the last days began.....the coming of the Kingdom has been foremost in the minds of Christ's disciples for almost 2,000 years now. (Acts 1:6) The symbol of our organization is a watchtower....and for a very good reason. Watchmen were often stationed on the city walls and towers to observe those approaching before they got close. They acted as guards or a sentries. Figuratively, prophets served as watchmen to the nation of Israel, warning of impending destruction.
To his prophet Ezekiel Jehovah said....“Son of man, I have appointed you as a watchman to the house of Israel; and when you hear a word from my mouth, you must warn them from me. 18 When I say to someone wicked, ‘You will surely die,’ but you do not warn him, and you fail to speak in order to warn the wicked one to turn from his wicked course so that he may stay alive, he will die for his error because he is wicked, but I will ask his blood back from you. 19 But if you warn someone wicked and he does not turn back from his wickedness and from his wicked course, he will die for his error, but you will certainly save your own life. 20 But when someone righteous abandons his righteousness and does what is wrong, I will put a stumbling block before him and he will die. If you did not warn him, he will die for his sin and his righteous acts will not be remembered, but I will ask his blood back from you. 21 But if you have warned the righteous one not to sin, and he does not sin, he will surely keep alive because he was warned, and you will have saved your own life.” (Ezekiel 3:17-21)
It is a serious assignment, so even if a false alarm is sounded, once the coast is clear, it's back to business as usual. We cannot afford to be complacent because Jesus said.....“You do not know on what day your Lord is coming.”
If the watchman waited too long to sound the alarm, the danger may well have overtaken the city before anyone was warned. The watchman has always done his job and made no apologies for any false alarms....it kept us on our toes. We are vigilant.
I don’t think so. Maybe in a few days one of us can tell the other I told you so lol
Interestingly your faith and mind arose out of the 19th century during a time of intense Messianic expectations.
One man William Miller even predicted the year as 1844, the year the Baha’i Faith began.
Many of his followers were so convinced they gave away their possessions. When their aspirations failed to materialise it was called the great disappointment.
Great Disappointment - Wikipedia
I suppose we all have our beliefs about what the end times look like.
No, it’s not earthquakes at all. Your OP was based on an array of false information and you can’t just brush over that and try to move on. You were fundamentally factually wrong.Its not just the earthquakes but the widespread volcanic activity and wildfires...floods and landslides. It seems every time you turn on the NEWS there is another disaster somewhere....what is happening in Hawaii is frightening. Mother Earth is complaining and she has every right to.
For those of us interested in Bible prophesy, these quakes may be significant. (Matthew 24:7) Thoughts?
The article was very interesting. However, like many examples of science jouralism, the headline doesn't quite match the article.There is an article I read about that scientists have recorded the earth's spin being slower than usual and as a result there will be an increased frequency of seismic activity due to the equator shrinking as a result of a slower spin of the earth. This period of increased activity may last at minimum of a few years.
Earth's Rotation Is Mysteriously Slowing Down: Experts Predict Uptick In 2018 Earthquakes
If they believe the weather is abnormal, but not climate change, it's a bit puzzling to me.
Hello. While this is often the source of much suffering, often among the most vulnerable people (not to mention the damage to infrastructure), many researchers are coming to realize how important plate techtonics may be in making a planet habitable:
https://www.astrobio.net/news-exclusive/plate-tectonics-could-be-essential-for-life/amp/
I am weary, though, of reading too much into natural events in regards to prophesy.
Stay awake, by all means. Don't read too much meaning into the general backgroundnoise of existence, though.I always wonder about the frequency of earthquakes and the fact that oil is constantly being extracted from beneath the earth's surface. Obviously there is a reason why it it there, perhaps it is the lubricant that the plates need to keep earthquakes from happening so frequently? I don't know, but I do wonder...?
I understand because it is wearisome to keep hearing about these things....but with Jesus' warning and the devil's constant efforts to lull us into a false sense of security, despite the awful state of the world and the level of suffering humanity is experiencing, sometimes we just want to stick our heads in the sand.....but we can't afford to let the devil do that to us. We are told to stay awake.....
There are always rumours of wars and earthquakes though. I suspect earthquake was also a metaphor for a paradigm shift or a new way of thinking. That’s what happened around the Advent of Christ and also what’s been happening for humanity over the last few centuries, especially since the nineteenth century where these processes and changes (earthquakes) have become more pronounced.
That’s not to say there are not physical signs as well but Christ encouraged us to appreciate the signs of the times we are living in now.
Matthew 16:1-4
I was using the "last minutes" metaphorically not literally. I believe that the last days began in 1914. When they end is anyone's guess, but we were told to "keep on the watch"....so we do.
Yes, I am aware of that. It has been said that the devil is a great mimic.....whatever God does, the devil sets up counterfeits to create confusion and disappointment. The late 1800's was a time of great expectation. Peace was expected to continue because the prospects had never seemed better, but not long after the turn of the century, out of the blue, the whole world found itself embroiled in a war that nobody saw coming. This we believe was "the beginning of pangs of distress" that Jesus mentioned. (Matthew 24:7-8)
Indeed. Time will tell I guess.
That's a good verse, but I don't see it as being very applicable here. Salvation or condemnation are the same whether we are in the midst of the Judgment or far from it - we each have one life to get it right. So there is an ever present need for perseverance regardless of when the Judgment actually occurs.
Also - false alarms in this context are a serious business. When you have people claiming to know when the end will be - they are claiming to have knowledge that even Christ was not privy to. They are setting themselves as prophets - false prophets. And these false prophets - of which there have been many - have ruined peoples lives. They stolen from them, made them outcasts and fools, and even taken their very lives. No - it is not OK to do this in the least. Stay watchful, sure - but don't go asserting you know that the end is nigh unless God himself has revealed it to you.
But is any of this particularly unusual? Or is it possible that the average number of disasters is pretty much what it's always been, and now they're just better reported?
It is good to meditate deeply and have a profound understanding of scripture, particularly the last Sermon of Christ, the Oliver Discourse. It is good too, to understand other cultures and faiths.adrian009,
You can reason from your own mind, called, Doping Out, or you can study God’s word, and get the real truth. Earthquakes are just one of a Composit 39 signs, in this one generation. Of course all of these signs have been, to some degree, in all generations. The great difference is, all of these signs, are obvious in this one generation, and all are in a degree unpresidented in any other generation!!! This should be clear to all who are honest hearted, who compare what is happening on earth today, with what the Bible would be happening, just before Jesus returns to earth. The Bible warn, that there would be scoffers, but that does not negate the truth, 2Peter 3:1-7. Meditate on what is said in Matthew chapter 24, Mark 13, Luke 21, 2Timothy 3:1-7. Please read the whole chapter of Romans 1. This world has been Adjudicated, ruled, too rotten to be changed, and must be destroyed. Please consider God’s words and LIVE, forever in a Paradise earth!!!
Agape!!
I wondered that, too, but I didn't want to restart THAT argument. I think if you acknowledge climate change is a thing, you might have to acknowledge we need to change our behaviour and do something about it. If it's just God doing it, well, there's not much you can do, is there? Burn all the coal you like, all those droughts and forest fires aren't your fault and you can't do anything to stop them any way.
You didn't actually answer my questionMother Earth is groaning under the pressure of man's impact on every part of her. From pollution of the air soil and water, to bombings and nuclear testing, to fracking, to oil rigs and ocean spills.....nuclear accidents....all take their toll. Man's impact on this planet is unique to our time because he has never had the ability to destroy the earth before. Interestingly at Revelation 11:18 it says about our time...."But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time came for the dead to be judged and to reward your slaves the prophets and the holy ones and those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.”
Man has only had that ability in this period of time yet it was predicted almost 2,000 years ago. .
...why?Its not that God is doing it as much as he is telling us what will happen because man is bent on a singular course that will result in what he predicted....God knows the future so he gives us prophesy which is just history written in advance.