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There Have Been 144 Major Earthquakes in the Last Week.

Cacotopia

Let's go full Trottle
Major earthquakes are 7 and up I believe. And I have only experienced 2 of those in the last month. So no not really, but there have been a HUGE number of 5's and 6's recently, and a lot of swarm earthquakes/ I feel them daily. And the volcano on my island has erupted 2 times in the past year. And And two Volcanoes erupted recently on the neighboring island but they weren't major eruptions either. i don't know why you think it is the end of times.

Seismic and volcanic activity in the ring of fire is DAILY and not a weird thing. The pacific plate is the fastest of all the tectonic plates also so I'm not sure why you think this is "abnormal."
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
If they believe the weather is abnormal, but not climate change, it's a bit puzzling to me.
I wondered that, too, but I didn't want to restart THAT argument. I think if you acknowledge climate change is a thing, you might have to acknowledge we need to change our behaviour and do something about it. If it's just God doing it, well, there's not much you can do, is there? Burn all the coal you like, all those droughts and forest fires aren't your fault and you can't do anything to stop them any way.
 

iam1me

Active Member
We have kept on the watch since the last days began.....the coming of the Kingdom has been foremost in the minds of Christ's disciples for almost 2,000 years now. (Acts 1:6) The symbol of our organization is a watchtower....and for a very good reason. Watchmen were often stationed on the city walls and towers to observe those approaching before they got close. They acted as guards or a sentries. Figuratively, prophets served as watchmen to the nation of Israel, warning of impending destruction.

To his prophet Ezekiel Jehovah said....“Son of man, I have appointed you as a watchman to the house of Israel; and when you hear a word from my mouth, you must warn them from me. 18 When I say to someone wicked, ‘You will surely die,’ but you do not warn him, and you fail to speak in order to warn the wicked one to turn from his wicked course so that he may stay alive, he will die for his error because he is wicked, but I will ask his blood back from you. 19 But if you warn someone wicked and he does not turn back from his wickedness and from his wicked course, he will die for his error, but you will certainly save your own life. 20 But when someone righteous abandons his righteousness and does what is wrong, I will put a stumbling block before him and he will die. If you did not warn him, he will die for his sin and his righteous acts will not be remembered, but I will ask his blood back from you. 21 But if you have warned the righteous one not to sin, and he does not sin, he will surely keep alive because he was warned, and you will have saved your own life.” (Ezekiel 3:17-21)

It is a serious assignment, so even if a false alarm is sounded, once the coast is clear, it's back to business as usual. We cannot afford to be complacent because Jesus said.....“You do not know on what day your Lord is coming.”
If the watchman waited too long to sound the alarm, the danger may well have overtaken the city before anyone was warned. The watchman has always done his job and made no apologies for any false alarms....it kept us on our toes. We are vigilant.

That's a good verse, but I don't see it as being very applicable here. Salvation or condemnation are the same whether we are in the midst of the Judgment or far from it - we each have one life to get it right. So there is an ever present need for perseverance regardless of when the Judgment actually occurs.

Also - false alarms in this context are a serious business. When you have people claiming to know when the end will be - they are claiming to have knowledge that even Christ was not privy to. They are setting themselves as prophets - false prophets. And these false prophets - of which there have been many - have ruined peoples lives. They stolen from them, made them outcasts and fools, and even taken their very lives. No - it is not OK to do this in the least. Stay watchful, sure - but don't go asserting you know that the end is nigh unless God himself has revealed it to you.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
I don’t think so. Maybe in a few days one of us can tell the other I told you so lol

I was using the "last minutes" metaphorically not literally. I believe that the last days began in 1914. When they end is anyone's guess, but we were told to "keep on the watch"....so we do.

Interestingly your faith and mind arose out of the 19th century during a time of intense Messianic expectations.

One man William Miller even predicted the year as 1844, the year the Baha’i Faith began.

Many of his followers were so convinced they gave away their possessions. When their aspirations failed to materialise it was called the great disappointment.

Great Disappointment - Wikipedia

Yes, I am aware of that. It has been said that the devil is a great mimic.....whatever God does, the devil sets up counterfeits to create confusion and disappointment. The late 1800's was a time of great expectation. Peace was expected to continue because the prospects had never seemed better, but not long after the turn of the century, out of the blue, the whole world found itself embroiled in a war that nobody saw coming. This we believe was "the beginning of pangs of distress" that Jesus mentioned. (Matthew 24:7-8)

I suppose we all have our beliefs about what the end times look like.

Indeed. Time will tell I guess.
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
Its not just the earthquakes but the widespread volcanic activity and wildfires...floods and landslides. It seems every time you turn on the NEWS there is another disaster somewhere....what is happening in Hawaii is frightening. Mother Earth is complaining and she has every right to.
No, it’s not earthquakes at all. Your OP was based on an array of false information and you can’t just brush over that and try to move on. You were fundamentally factually wrong.

The same principle applies to any other natural disasters you care to mention. The fact there is lots of news coverage (despite your OP talking about a lack of coverage) and the fact such incidents are frightening doesn’t actually mean anything. Do you have any actual evidence that the incidence or scale of these disasters is increasing in any way?
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
There is an article I read about that scientists have recorded the earth's spin being slower than usual and as a result there will be an increased frequency of seismic activity due to the equator shrinking as a result of a slower spin of the earth. This period of increased activity may last at minimum of a few years.

Earth's Rotation Is Mysteriously Slowing Down: Experts Predict Uptick In 2018 Earthquakes
The article was very interesting. However, like many examples of science jouralism, the headline doesn't quite match the article.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
Hello. While this is often the source of much suffering, often among the most vulnerable people (not to mention the damage to infrastructure), many researchers are coming to realize how important plate techtonics may be in making a planet habitable:

https://www.astrobio.net/news-exclusive/plate-tectonics-could-be-essential-for-life/amp/

I always wonder about the frequency of earthquakes and the fact that oil is constantly being extracted from beneath the earth's surface. Obviously there is a reason why it it there, perhaps it is the lubricant that the plates need to keep earthquakes from happening so frequently? I don't know, but I do wonder...?

I am weary, though, of reading too much into natural events in regards to prophesy.

I understand because it is wearisome to keep hearing about these things....but with Jesus' warning and the devil's constant efforts to lull us into a false sense of security, despite the awful state of the world and the level of suffering humanity is experiencing, sometimes we just want to stick our heads in the sand.....but we can't afford to let the devil do that to us. We are told to stay awake.....
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
I always wonder about the frequency of earthquakes and the fact that oil is constantly being extracted from beneath the earth's surface. Obviously there is a reason why it it there, perhaps it is the lubricant that the plates need to keep earthquakes from happening so frequently? I don't know, but I do wonder...?



I understand because it is wearisome to keep hearing about these things....but with Jesus' warning and the devil's constant efforts to lull us into a false sense of security, despite the awful state of the world and the level of suffering humanity is experiencing, sometimes we just want to stick our heads in the sand.....but we can't afford to let the devil do that to us. We are told to stay awake.....
Stay awake, by all means. Don't read too much meaning into the general backgroundnoise of existence, though.
 

12jtartar

Active Member
Premium Member
There are always rumours of wars and earthquakes though. I suspect earthquake was also a metaphor for a paradigm shift or a new way of thinking. That’s what happened around the Advent of Christ and also what’s been happening for humanity over the last few centuries, especially since the nineteenth century where these processes and changes (earthquakes) have become more pronounced.

That’s not to say there are not physical signs as well but Christ encouraged us to appreciate the signs of the times we are living in now.

Matthew 16:1-4

adrian009,
You can reason from your own mind, called, Doping Out, or you can study God’s word, and get the real truth. Earthquakes are just one of a Composit 39 signs, in this one generation. Of course all of these signs have been, to some degree, in all generations. The great difference is, all of these signs, are obvious in this one generation, and all are in a degree unpresidented in any other generation!!! This should be clear to all who are honest hearted, who compare what is happening on earth today, with what the Bible would be happening, just before Jesus returns to earth. The Bible warn, that there would be scoffers, but that does not negate the truth, 2Peter 3:1-7. Meditate on what is said in Matthew chapter 24, Mark 13, Luke 21, 2Timothy 3:1-7. Please read the whole chapter of Romans 1. This world has been Adjudicated, ruled, too rotten to be changed, and must be destroyed. Please consider God’s words and LIVE, forever in a Paradise earth!!!
Agape!!
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
I was using the "last minutes" metaphorically not literally. I believe that the last days began in 1914. When they end is anyone's guess, but we were told to "keep on the watch"....so we do.

Metaphor is good, especially when it comes to making sense of the apocalyptic style of text in Matthew 24.

I’m aware of some of what the Jehovah Witnesses believe in.

I find it interesting that the Jews had a totally different expectation of what their Messiah would be like, all based on the Tanakh of course.

Yes, I am aware of that. It has been said that the devil is a great mimic.....whatever God does, the devil sets up counterfeits to create confusion and disappointment. The late 1800's was a time of great expectation. Peace was expected to continue because the prospects had never seemed better, but not long after the turn of the century, out of the blue, the whole world found itself embroiled in a war that nobody saw coming. This we believe was "the beginning of pangs of distress" that Jesus mentioned. (Matthew 24:7-8)

I don’t believe in the devil except as a metaphor for our lower nature. In that sense even Peter whom Jesus asked to care for His flock had Satan in him.

Matthew 16:23

Bahá’u’lláh foresaw WWI though. Perhaps that was the great apocalypse and 1914 had great significance after all, but in a way that was not expected by many, not even the JWs.o_O

Indeed. Time will tell I guess.

Time will tell. Two thousand years later, the Jews are still waiting. I’m not though. Not anymore.:)
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
That's a good verse, but I don't see it as being very applicable here. Salvation or condemnation are the same whether we are in the midst of the Judgment or far from it - we each have one life to get it right. So there is an ever present need for perseverance regardless of when the Judgment actually occurs.

That is true, which is why we have just kept on doing what Jesus commanded us to do, regardless of the times. We have only this life to make our choices and they will either put us in line for life or death. These are the only choices we have.

Also - false alarms in this context are a serious business. When you have people claiming to know when the end will be - they are claiming to have knowledge that even Christ was not privy to. They are setting themselves as prophets - false prophets. And these false prophets - of which there have been many - have ruined peoples lives. They stolen from them, made them outcasts and fools, and even taken their very lives. No - it is not OK to do this in the least. Stay watchful, sure - but don't go asserting you know that the end is nigh unless God himself has revealed it to you.

Yes I agree, but sometimes God allows tests to see if his people are correctly motivated....like Job. God did not bring the test, satan did...but God allowed it because he could use Job's example to encourage us in this time of the end when things were going to get tough. (Revelation 12:7-12) He never allows us to go beyond what we can bear, but he will not prevent the devil from testing our mettle.

I have heard that some among my own brotherhood, (though I never had any experience like this myself) took the warning too far and acted foolishly of their own accord. We have never predicted a day or hour, but we have seen certain years as interesting from the point of viewpoint of Bible prophesy. In my experience, we were never told point blank that a certain year would be the one...it was only ever on the basis of 'wouldn't it be nice to think that God's Kingdom was that close to freeing the world from suffering....and ushering in Christ's rulership'. In my lifetime, it was never more than that. I have been a Witness since 1972.

Those who overreacted paid the penalty and blamed the organization for their own actions. It appears as if they had only their own selfish reasons for doing what they did, serving God with a year in mind instead of forever. By allowing that test God weeded out those who were there for the wrong reasons. Unless we are prepared to serve God forever, continuing to learn and grow in our appreciation for his love for us, we have no business claiming to worship him. That is how I see things.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
But is any of this particularly unusual? Or is it possible that the average number of disasters is pretty much what it's always been, and now they're just better reported?

Mother Earth is groaning under the pressure of man's impact on every part of her. From pollution of the air soil and water, to bombings and nuclear testing, to fracking, to oil rigs and ocean spills.....nuclear accidents....all take their toll. Man's impact on this planet is unique to our time because he has never had the ability to destroy the earth before. Interestingly at Revelation 11:18 it says about our time...."But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time came for the dead to be judged and to reward your slaves the prophets and the holy ones and those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.”

Man has only had that ability in this period of time yet it was predicted almost 2,000 years ago. .
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
adrian009,
You can reason from your own mind, called, Doping Out, or you can study God’s word, and get the real truth. Earthquakes are just one of a Composit 39 signs, in this one generation. Of course all of these signs have been, to some degree, in all generations. The great difference is, all of these signs, are obvious in this one generation, and all are in a degree unpresidented in any other generation!!! This should be clear to all who are honest hearted, who compare what is happening on earth today, with what the Bible would be happening, just before Jesus returns to earth. The Bible warn, that there would be scoffers, but that does not negate the truth, 2Peter 3:1-7. Meditate on what is said in Matthew chapter 24, Mark 13, Luke 21, 2Timothy 3:1-7. Please read the whole chapter of Romans 1. This world has been Adjudicated, ruled, too rotten to be changed, and must be destroyed. Please consider God’s words and LIVE, forever in a Paradise earth!!!
Agape!!
It is good to meditate deeply and have a profound understanding of scripture, particularly the last Sermon of Christ, the Oliver Discourse. It is good too, to understand other cultures and faiths.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
I wondered that, too, but I didn't want to restart THAT argument. I think if you acknowledge climate change is a thing, you might have to acknowledge we need to change our behaviour and do something about it. If it's just God doing it, well, there's not much you can do, is there? Burn all the coal you like, all those droughts and forest fires aren't your fault and you can't do anything to stop them any way.

Its not that God is doing it as much as he is telling us what will happen because man is bent on a singular course that will result in what he predicted....God knows the future so he gives us prophesy which is just history written in advance.
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Mother Earth is groaning under the pressure of man's impact on every part of her. From pollution of the air soil and water, to bombings and nuclear testing, to fracking, to oil rigs and ocean spills.....nuclear accidents....all take their toll. Man's impact on this planet is unique to our time because he has never had the ability to destroy the earth before. Interestingly at Revelation 11:18 it says about our time...."But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time came for the dead to be judged and to reward your slaves the prophets and the holy ones and those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.”

Man has only had that ability in this period of time yet it was predicted almost 2,000 years ago. .
You didn't actually answer my question
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Its not that God is doing it as much as he is telling us what will happen because man is bent on a singular course that will result in what he predicted....God knows the future so he gives us prophesy which is just history written in advance.
...why?
 
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