There is more then enough evidence to prove God exists.

[WhatGod]

in my world Chicken little has never made such a proclamation, oh, he knows that one day the sky will fall in

JC said precisely when he was coming back and the time for that expired a long, long, long time ago.

So either he lied; or, he did come back and got the lucky ones and you are just one of the damned.

Interesting dilemma.

 

[Sonofason]

That doesn't make sense. Take a cow, dry it up and you have dust - but not a cow. A cow is not the same thing as a pile of dust anymore than a self replicating protien is the same thing as a pile of dust.

Self replicating proteins are not dust, nor for that matter is pond scum.

definitions of dust
fine particles of matter
Dust - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

fine, dry particles of matter.
earth or other matter in fine dry particles.
any finely powdered substance
dust - definition of dust by The Free Dictionary

All honor and praise be to the proteins. They never have been dust, and they never will be dust. They are gods to us. Right?

 

[Bunyip]

definitions of dust
fine particles of matter
Dust - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

fine, dry particles of matter.
earth or other matter in fine dry particles.
any finely powdered substance
dust - definition of dust by The Free Dictionary

All honor and praise be to the proteins. They never have been dust, and they never will be dust. They are gods to us. Right?

Not sure what point you think you are making there.

 

[Sonofason]

Replace the word dirt with stuff. Such a precise terminology you have there.

Great argument, you win.

 

[Sonofason]

No. You are trying to make claims of knowledge for which the people who wrote the bible just plain did not have. You are also equivocating the term dust to the point that it means anything.

Further, dust does not form life - it lacks water and other necessary elements and energy. Life most likely arose from meteor impacts and volcanos in the water. Both are energetic enough to create amino acids and peptides. Olivine is a likely candidate for getting things jump started as it has structures for the early proto cell components and can act as a proton gradient in the right circumstances.

How life evolved: 10 steps to the first cells - 14 October 2009 - New Scientist

Was our oldest ancestor a proton-powered rock? -- Science & Technology -- Sott.net

Actually, dust can be any thing, broken down to fine particulates. It can be metals, former cows, former proteins, former eyeballs, any thing at all.

If you know what it takes to create life, then go ahead and create life.

 

[Bunyip]

Actually, dust can be any thing, broken down to fine particulates. It can be metals, former cows, former proteins, former eyeballs, any thing at all.

If you know what it takes to create life, then go ahead and create life.

So what though? A cow is still not the same as dust.

Scientists synthesised the first self replicating life form some years ago by the way,

 

[Sonofason]

Not sure what point you think you are making there.

I am saying that all proteins have their origins. To argue with me that a protein is not dust is meaningless. I say we come from dust, and we do. You want to say, oh no, we come from proteins and amino acids etc. But that is irrelevant because they all come from dust.

 

[Bunyip]

I am saying that all proteins have their origins. To argue with me that a protein is not dust is meaningless. I say we come from dust, and we do. You want to say, oh no, we come from proteins and amino acids etc, but they all come from dust.

So it is meaningless to point out that you are equating completely different things?

 

[Sonofason]

So what though? A cow is still not the same as dust.

Scientists synthesised the first self replicating life form some years ago by the way,

I'd love to see your evidence. It is not that I do not believe that creating life is impossible; obviously it is possible. But still, I'd love to see your evidence.

 

[Sonofason]

So it is meaningless to point out that you are equating completely different things?

I suppose you're right. It seems I have managed to equate completely different things. I amaze me.

 

[Bunyip]

I'd love to see your evidence. It is not that I do not believe that creating life is impossible; obviously it is. But still, I'd love to see your evidence.

Sure, google: Scientists create first self replicating synthetic life.

 

[Sonofason]

Sure, google: Scientists create first self replicating synthetic life.

I don't believe that giving an existing cell a DNA transplant is creating life. What those scientists have done is altered existing life.

 

[Bunyip]

I don't believe that giving an existing cell a DNA transplant is creating life. What those scientists have done is altered existing life.

What's your point? What has that got to do with the article?

 

[Serenity7855]

Sure, google: Scientists create first self replicating synthetic life.

Yeah, do that Sonofason. You will see that it is self replicating, from living matter. Oops.

 

[WhatGod]

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Say are you going to get around to persuading me god is more likely anytime soon?

 

[Bunyip]

Yeah, do that Sonofason. You will see that it is self replicating, from living matter. Oops.

Well if that is an issue, scientists made self replicating molecules from scratch a decade or so earlier.

 

[Shad]

Great argument, you win.

It shows that such a generalized term is meaningless. One might as well say stuff as it is the equivalent of "dust"

 

[Shad]

Why? I knew exactly what he meant and I have no formal education in that field.

Which shows that you are ignorant that dust contains many elements, many of which are not of the human body. It is a generalized term suitable for laymen. "I took some stuff and made dinner", "I took some dust to create a building."

 

[Serenity7855]

I don't believe that giving an existing cell a DNA transplant is creating life. What those scientists have done is altered existing life.

That is right. That was all they did. No more no less, and then they shout about it like they have performed a miracle.

 

[Serenity7855]

Which shows that you are ignorant that dust contains many elements, many of which are not of the human body. It is a generalized term suitable for laymen. "I took some stuff and made dinner", "I took some dust to create a building."

I know that it is a generalised term, but I understood his implications anyway. I don't say that my wife was removing some elements from the ornaments today, I say she was dusting, even though dust is element. God said he created life from the dust of the earth. He was speaking to laymen. They understood him. In reality, he took DNA, the manufacturing plant and instruction manual that creates life ex-materia, DNA that he had prepared earlier, and set it into motion, probably by using Morphic magnetic fields to insure everything went where it was supposed to go and looked like it was supposed to look, and continued to. Two well known and scientifically researched phenomenon, utilising the scientific method, that explains the creation of mankind, - takes a bow and leaves the stage to clapping and cheering.