Serenity7855
Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
Yes. I know of no scripture that says this so I would be interested to read it.
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There is more then enough evidence to prove God exists.
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Yes. I know of no scripture that says this so I would be interested to read it.
adi2d
Active Member
Are you kidding me dude? We've been talking about the same scripture the pages now. You very well know what one I am referring to.
Serenity7855
Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
Children do not have absolute freedom. Parents are responsible for them. If the parents mess up you cannot blame God for not telling you. It is the individuals responsibility to make informed choices for their children, not Gods. He cannot be held accountable for their decision, no more so then the theif.
Serenity7855
Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
Well, that is not God voicing his conditions, that was a man.
Serenity7855
Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
Well, I do. My entire belief is based on free agency. I have never blamed God, or anyone else, for my choices.
No it's not. It's god s given law.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
This. ^^^
Serenity7855
Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
Well then show me the words that God spoke and I will show you that it was the man Moses who uttered them.
Serenity7855
Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
And then gave us free agency to act for ourselves. Anything else is a cop out and a licence to sin without consequences.
Serenity7855
Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
I do not have an answer for that. I am not concerned with the servitude, I am defending the accusation that God condones slavery. He doesn't
No it doesn't, that doesn't even make sense contextually.
when you no options and rights it stops being servitude and is slavery.
Serenity7855
Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
If we can play the "it is not my fault, God didn't tell me" card, then sin ceases to exist as it is all Gods fault. He didn't tell us not to do that.
Serenity7855
Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
Well, I would agree with that, however, these particular people, that Moses referred to, volunteered. They had an option and the rights were being disclosed in these rules for servants
adi2d
Active Member
The wife and children were not volunteers! The children were born property of the master. No matter how you tapdance around it that is slavery by definition
Or foreigners caught in war.
Serenity7855
Lambaster of the Angry Anti-Theists
Have you read these five verses? Are you reading Exodus 21:2-6? Only what you are saying does not match that which has been written. The children came under the same laws as their parents, a seven year contract. Of course the children or the wife given whilst in servitude would remain the servants of the master after the man did his seven years. They were still under their seven year contract. I thought that was a given. Why would they set free the man and keep the woman forever? You are painting the Masters in an unsavoury light, we do not know that. That is pure conjecture and intended to taunt Christians rather then have honest debate.