There is no evidence for God, so why do you believe?

[Subduction Zone]

No I didn't. Because I have faith my senses tell me about God everyday. Today they showed me his creativity and beauty and artistry for example.

How. Please inform us. You may be using the wrong terminology. What you are writing about are poor conclusions that you drew from every day events.

When one does not reason rationally one does not come up with rational results..

 

[Polymath257]

Ok, the questions of why we exist,

I exist because my mother and father had sex and she became pregnant.

who we are meant to be,

You are assuming there is a 'meant to be'. What makes you think the question isn't assuming more than is valid? maybe we just 'exist' and don't have a purpose. Can you show that we do?

What my grandmother intended for me is irrelevant to me now. She doesn't get to decide what my goal in life is. For that matter, even if there was a God, that God would not get to make such decisions either.

how the universe got here,

Why do you think there was a 'how' involved? Maybe the universe 'just exists'.

what gives life meaning,

You mean, other than our own decisions to give it meaning? Why would you think more is required? Why do you think that life only has meaning if it has cosmic significance? That seems, to me, to be a very wrong way to approach meaning in life.

whether we are truly loved by anyone.

I guess it depends on the person and what you mean by 'truly loved by'. Some of us are lucky and find love from other people in life.

. I can go on. Want to find the answers? Start with scripture, asking God for discernment.

I think these questions assume more than they should and therefore don't have an answer of the sort you search for. Ultimately, in my opinion, you are asking the wrong questions and missing the point in doing so.

I don't assume that I am important on a cosmic scale. I don't even assume humanity is important on a cosmic scale. But that doesn't mean we are important to us, right here, right now.

I don't assume I have a 'purpose in life' that is decided by anyone other than me. it is a significant responsibility to decide what you want to do in your own life. But doing so, I have found, leads to a much richer life than attempting to discern the intentions of a supernatural being that you can't know exists in the first place.

 

[Polymath257]

Science hasn't answered any of those because it can't. They are outside of it's reach. It's not that science is all wrong, it's just limited to the physical.

Maybe science hasn't answered those questions because those questions don't have a 'truth'. Maybe their answers are matters of opinion and *we* get to decide. Sort of like what foods we enjoy or what music sounds good to us. Maybe there is no 'truth' there, only 'opinion'.

 

[Wildswanderer]

How. Please inform us. You may be using the wrong terminology. What you are writing about are poor conclusions that you drew from every day events.

When one does not reason rationally one does not come up with rational results..

How? By observation of God's amazing creation of course. I was just watching a video about a biochemist who was an atheist and is now a Christian partly because of what he found out from science, that is, it could not explain how chemical evolution could actually happen.

 

[Wildswanderer]

I exist because my mother and father had sex and she became pregnant.

A very myoptic answer. That doesn't explain anything but the immediate how question..it doesn't explain why sex even works for example, who created such a crazy way to populate the world?

 

[Wildswanderer]

Why do you think there was a 'how' involved? Maybe the universe 'just exists'.

You like fantasy huh?

 

[Subduction Zone]

How? By observation of God's amazing creation of course. I was just watching a video about a biochemist who was an atheist and is now a Christian partly because of what he found out from science, that is, it could not explain how chemical evolution could actually happen.

Sorry you just made a huge mistake and cannot see it. That leads to only confirmation bias, not a rational conclusion.

What you need to do to have a legitimate claim is to use the scientific method if you want to rely on the senses.

 

[Wildswanderer]

I exist because my mother and father had sex and she became pregnant.



You are assuming there is a 'meant to be'. What makes you think the question isn't assuming more than is valid? maybe we just 'exist' and don't have a purpose. Can you show that we do?

What my grandmother intended for me is irrelevant to me now. She doesn't get to decide what my goal in life is. For that matter, even if there was a God, that God would not get to make such decisions either.


Why do you think there was a 'how' involved? Maybe the universe 'just exists'.


You mean, other than our own decisions to give it meaning? Why would you think more is required? Why do you think that life only has meaning if it has cosmic significance? That seems, to me, to be a very wrong way to approach meaning in life.


I guess it depends on the person and what you mean by 'truly loved by'. Some of us are lucky and find love from other people in life.



I think these questions assume more than they should and therefore don't have an answer of the sort you search for. Ultimately, in my opinion, you are asking the wrong questions and missing the point in doing so.

I don't assume that I am important on a cosmic scale. I don't even assume humanity is important on a cosmic scale. But that doesn't mean we are important to us, right here, right now.

I don't assume I have a 'purpose in life' that is decided by anyone other than me. it is a significant responsibility to decide what you want to do in your own life. But doing so, I have found, leads to a much richer life than attempting to discern the intentions of a supernatural being that you can't know exists in the first place.

Sounds like hell on earth...in other words you are here for no reason, have no purpose and nothing matters.

 

[Subduction Zone]

A very myoptic answer. That doesn't explain anything but the immediate how question..it doesn't explain why sex even works for example, who created such a crazy way to populate the world?

Correct ,and do you knw how we get the deeper answer to those questions? Here is a hint, it is not by reading a magic book.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Sounds like hell on earth...in other words you are here for no reason, have no purpose and nothing matters.

That is just sad. Life is what one makes of it. If it is "hell on Earth" that would be your own doing.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Sorry you just made a huge mistake and cannot see it. That leads to only confirmation bias, not a rational conclusion.

What you need to do to have a legitimate claim is to use the scientific method if you want to rely on the senses.

No I already told you, because I have faith creation reveals God to me.
The scientific method is worthless for the real life questions.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Correct ,and do you knw how we get the deeper answer to those questions? Here is a hint, it is not by reading a magic book.

According to the other atheist there is no reason. Therefore the questions have no answer for the atheist.

 

[Wildswanderer]

That is just sad. Life is what one makes of it. If it is "hell on Earth" that would be your own doing.

Yes, life with no purpose or reason is sad.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No I already told you, because I have faith creation reveals God to me.
The scientific method is worthless for the real life questions.

Yes, that is a huge error. You have also demonstrated that you have no way of knowing that. In other words it is the same as if you made it up.

All you have is mere belief and incorrect conclusions drawn on those beliefs. That is not a pathway to knowledge.

 

[Subduction Zone]

According to the other atheist there is no reason. Therefore the questions have no answer for the atheist.

Where did he say officer or imply that. I could say the same about your beliefs.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yes, life with no purpose or reason is sad.

We are not talking about your life. But sure a life without purpose is sad. It appears to me that you do not have one.

 

[Polymath257]

A very myoptic answer. That doesn't explain anything but the immediate how question..it doesn't explain why sex even works for example, who created such a crazy way to populate the world?

Why do you assume a 'who'?

 

[Polymath257]

You like fantasy huh?

Just the facts, please. The main one promoting a fantasy as far as I can see are those promoting religion.

 

[Polymath257]

Sounds like hell on earth...in other words you are here for no reason, have no purpose and nothing matters.

I am here because my parents had sex. My purpose is decided by *me*, not by someone or something else. And things very much do matter, just not in a cosmic sense.

 

[Polymath257]

No I already told you, because I have faith creation reveals God to me.
The scientific method is worthless for the real life questions.

The 'real life' questions are mostly matters of opinion. It matter how you answer because that determines what sort of person you are. But it is an opinion, not a truth.