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There is no evidence for God, so why do you believe?

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
That’s the Bible’s interpretation, the Apostles, Jesus Christ, OT and NT, even Revelation says:
“After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!””
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭7:9-10‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
So the Gospel is not just for the Jews.

Yeah, you have your faith. I have a different one.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
So far ove seen your post about you saying something like Paul had a different message than
Jesus Christ which isn’t true.


Jesus directed his message to the Jews. he was pretty clear that it was NOT directed to anyone else. Paul changed that to a message to the gentiles.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
That’s the Bible’s interpretation, the Apostles, Jesus Christ, OT and NT, even Revelation says:
“After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!””
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭7:9-10‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
So the Gospel is not just for the Jews.


Which was written *after* Paul had a chance to change the message.

Jesus preached to the Jews and was very clear that his message was NOT for the gentiles.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Jesus Christ came and proved this, are you going to argue till He returns or seek Him out? Find out if what I say is true.


I have sought him out using the test given in the Bible. I found myself talking to myself.

So the Biblical test failed.

You can claim I wasn't sufficiently honest in my search, but I know that I was.
 
Which was written *after* Paul had a chance to change the message.

Jesus preached to the Jews and was very clear that his message was NOT for the gentiles.
That’s what you say but that’s NOT what the Scriptures say. Jesus did come to the Jew first and yes that was His mission but said as I showed before that the Gospel was for the world. John 3:16, this is also throughout the whole Bible.
 

KWED

Scratching head, scratching knee
A little *learning* can be a dangerous thing.
Both the "learning" and "knowledge" versions have been widely used since the 18th century, but the earliest recorded version, which predates Pope by 10 years, uses "knowledge".
I'm happy with either.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
That’s what you say but that’s NOT what the Scriptures say. Jesus did come to the Jew first and yes that was His mission but said as I showed before that the Gospel was for the world. John 3:16, this is also throughout the whole Bible.


Again, a text that was written late. Well after Paul had the chance to corrupt the message.
 

KWED

Scratching head, scratching knee
Well your mountain comment and someone’s lightning comments are kind of funny.
Why do you find it funny?
Are you not familiar with the expression "a mountain of evidence"? Or do you challenge the statement that there is a mountain of evidence for natural processes? I hope it is the former because the latter would be pretty worrying.

a mountain of something/mountains of something | meaning of a mountain of something/mountains of something in Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English | LDOCE
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
If there is no evidence of God’s existence, I wonder why He says, “Come now, and let us reason together,” Says the Lord...
Isaiah 1:18
...and why the scriptures place such emphasis on seeking wisdom, knowledge and understanding.
Seems to me that an infinite God, Creator of heaven and earth is more than capable of providing adequate evidence or proof of His existence to anyone who truly wants to know and seeks.

Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you... Matthew 7:7
I doubt if God said that. The Bible, a book written by men, claims that God said that. Yet when we try to do this there is ever any reason or any response at all from him.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
That’s what you say but that’s NOT what the Scriptures say. Jesus did come to the Jew first and yes that was His mission but said as I showed before that the Gospel was for the world. John 3:16, this is also throughout the whole Bible.
The teachings of early Christians changed as the religion was adopted far more quickly in Rome than in Israel.
 
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