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There is no such thing as a gay Christian

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literal visionary

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Then why don't you give them love? Why dont' you love them instead of condemining them, I've actually found that wins more over:p It's not about judging, then what do you call what you have been doing?

how do know what condemnatiopn is?

sometimes love is tough people need to hear it strait

its more disrespectful to pussyfoot around.
 

literal visionary

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So, killing your family/children/whatever is right because it is laid down in the Old Testament? *sigh* You know what, how about you try a different topic, here are tons out there, and I'm sure the mods are actually going to close this up for review soon. *Maybe, maybe not.*

where does it say to kill your family in the old testament?
What isaa
 

Bishka

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literal visionary said:
how do know what condemnatiopn is?

sometimes love is tough people need to hear it strait

its more disrespectful to pussyfoot around.


Yes, I do know what condemnation is and I'm not going to get into it here, because you are dragging the topic further off the OP. If you want to make another one, go for it. Your deathbed.
 

literal visionary

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But just because you agree to disagree with someone does not mean you are sinning. I dont understand your point. Like I said, I agree the act is a sin, but it is no more of a sin than the 20 sins I commit every day. Now would I personally go to a church where the Pastor was a practising homosexual? Absolutely not (probably a different thread, but an interesting one!), but to start a post by saying you cant be a homosexual Christian is like saying you cant divorce and remarry and still be a Christian.

Im just saying hypotheitacally
if you had homosexual feeling wouldn't, even if you didn't believe in the old test.
would it be worth sinning against god just to have sex with someone of the same sex?
 

Bishka

Veteran Member
literal visionary said:
where does it say to kill your family in the old testament?
What isaa


I was paraphrasing something I believe someone said at the beginning of this thread. I am not going to argue with you anymore on this, you continue to demean homosexuals and I'm sick of it. Go pick another thread to go off on. I'm done here.....(everyone shakes their head in doubt..I know, I know, I probably won't leave)
 

Bishka

Veteran Member
literal visionary said:
Im just saying hypotheitacally
if you had homosexual feeling wouldn't, even if you didn't believe in the old test.
would it be worth sinning against god just to have sex with someone of the same sex?

Wow, did you not get the other posts. They aren't in it for the sex! Jeez! Haven't you got that through your head?
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
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If the book tells you something is wrong you should believe it
Ok. But you said......
the bible has a fiew things like not eating pork in there
but times change,
besides maybe this was an misinterpretation

If you're going to claim that you shouldn't do anything the Bible declares wrong, then do it with the whole thing.

It's all or nothing dear. I keep hearing people say (I believe you're included) that we can't pick and choose what we want from the Bible. If you claim that the Bible is without error and that you follow it to a tee, then do so. That includes pork, clothing, slavery, treatment of women, stoning people for sins, and other jolly thing that are depicted in the OT. Otherwise don't make that claim.
 

kevmicsmi

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literal visionary said:
Im just saying hypotheitacally
if you had homosexual feeling wouldn't, even if you didn't believe in the old test.
would it be worth sinning against god just to have sex with someone of the same sex?

I dont know because I dont have that feeling. I hope I would be strong enough to stay consistent in my beliefs I hold now. But there are plenty of things I dont think are sins that other believers do think are sins.
 

EnhancedSpirit

High Priestess
literal visionary said:
ex
what you aren't going to tell your child right from wrong, and let them think whatever they feel and want to do is right because you dont want to judge them? So you have a monster child on your hands ? Graet you can love your kids but this doesn't mean theyre not brats.


yes it is if we know the word of God

If a young friend of yours is about to rob a bank, are you going to tell them its wrong,
or are you going to let them do what they want if makes them feel good,
At least you could tell them its a felony
You think that person wouldn't know they were about to commit a felony? And no amount of talking is going to stop a desperate person from doing something desperate.

Jesus said it's not what we do, it's why we do it. And it's not our place to judge. And as for what I teach my children is that everything they do has a consequence. If you do evil, evil will come back to you, and if you do good, good will come back to you. But either way, a lesson will be learned, and God's will be done.
 

literal visionary

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You think that person wouldn't know they were about to commit a felony? And no amount of talking is going to stop a desperate person from doing something desperate.

not every felony is desperate, what if theywere innocent as "supposed" homosexuals are, maybe they didn't know it was wrong....
so you should tell them like your kids....

like im going to tell for the rest of my life to every gay person I know, that what they are doing is wrong.......

Jesus said it's not what we do, it's why we do it. And it's not our place to judge. And as for what I teach my children is that everything they do has a consequence. If you do evil, evil will come back to you, and if you do good, good will come back to you. But either way, a lesson will be learned, and God's will be done.

telling someone right from wrong isnt judging them,
its telling them the truth

And as for what I teach my children is that everything they do has a consequence.

yeah kind of like how being gay is wrong
and being gay has a consequence,

i agree with you I have no place judging people,
but I can tell them right and wrong

so they wont have to pay for it when judgement day does come to call on all of us
 

literal visionary

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Wow, did you not get the other posts. They aren't in it for the sex! Jeez! Haven't you got that through your head?

biologically they are, Love of marriage happens between a man and a women


I was paraphrasing something I believe someone said at the beginning of this thread. I am not going to argue with you anymore on this, you continue to demean homosexuals and I'm sick of it. Go pick another thread to go off on. I'm done here.....(everyone shakes their head in doubt..I know, I know, I probably won't leave)

I didnt know that demeaning= letting people lie to themselves, make up their own laws, disregard the laws of God, and disrespect their own bodies
 

Bishka

Veteran Member
I'm done here, I refuse to argue anymore, because it is pointless. I've stuck up for my friends (which is the least I could do), I hope people begin to ignore this topic, it's lost it's relevancy.

Start a new one, about something else and I might join up. Literary Visionary, I'd love to hear your views on Harry Potter.
 

EnhancedSpirit

High Priestess
Matthew 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
 

literal visionary

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If you're going to claim that you shouldn't do anything the Bible declares wrong, then do it with the whole thing.

It's all or nothing dear. I keep hearing people say (I believe you're included) that we can't pick and choose what we want from the Bible. If you claim that the Bible is without error and that you follow it to a tee, then do so. That includes pork, clothing, slavery, treatment of women, stoning people for sins, and other jolly thing that are depicted in the OT. Otherwise don't make that claim.

Bulletin----the new test. fixed certain things in the old

Jesus came to earth to free our spiritual slavery, if our souls are free
what does it matter who controls our bodies

Jesus treated women as equals, there were women apostles

maybe we shouldn't eat pork, it si unhealthy

One robe?
they didn't specify between a man and women did they?

and mybe we should all wear 1 pieces clothes, I dont see any roblem there

and jesus saved people from being stoned

Im not throwing stones im saying hey watch out for the next hole.
 

literal visionary

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all sins have a consequence and well have to answer to god our creator,
besides put these laws in place to protect our wellbeing and our society,

but we as people like to abuse ourselves.

like I said Im not throwing stones im saying hey watch out for the next fall
 

literal visionary

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harry potter is a little boring though,

anything else a little more out of the ordinary?
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