These answers to the problem of evil are unsatisfactory to me

[firedragon]

God does not exist.

Can you prove it?

 

[firedragon]

Your clever post made me think in another question: Do theists and atheists tend to agree on the definition of evil?

There cannot be a concept of Evil in an Atheistic perspective if they are informed and are honest.

 

[McBell]

There cannot be a concept of Evil in an Atheistic perspective if they are informed and are honest.

Why not?

 

[Absolutely Frank]

Why not?

Because atheism is merely the passive lack of belief in deities. Right? Isn't that what they say?

 

[Audie]

How do you explain the existence of evil, despite God being almighty, and all knowing, and perfect love?

How do you forum posters explain that evil exists despite God being, all powerful, all knowing and all love? Why does God permit or create evil? Or did God not want it for anything? Is evil and illusion? Why did Jesus create the situation of the crucifixion and go through that? Why does the...

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As long as you involve "god" there is no sense to be made

 

[Audie]

We are moral beings and that means that God has given us the choice to go against His will and do evil. This is how evil came into the world with help from Satan who put the idea into Adam and Eve that God was not good and that He lied to them.
God already had a way to deal with evil but as we live in time, this way is not instantaneous but works itself out over time.

"We are moral therefore god"

Is that how you think?

 

[ChieftheCef]

Can you prove it?

Glad you asked. Let's think about nothing, absence. It lacks existence, though it is active in the world. Nothing is the only thing before everything to create. It is what was before, is during and after. The nothing and something show relation, as if made by each other. Nothingness, absence, space-time, the 3d is a lot of incredibly small somethingness, the quantum somethingness. Somethingness, matter etc, is a lot of Nothingness! Take quarks or atoms or molecules etc. Most of what they are is the space between, otherwise they wouldn't be what they are, same with cups. If you take out the air the cup crushes, and in space if you take out the space it's not really it's shape it's something entirely different.

Besides this matter/energy is actually contorted Voiduousness contorted into somethingness. So nothing is intangible as itself and tangible as somethingness. But how did it create itself? It sheerly was so absence that presence had to be created. There was certain quantum activity in vast amounts just right so it had to become. The Quantum field that continues to cocreatively with all other parts make us is what we owe all of everything to. What requires nothing else despite it's cocreativity? The Void. Are they evil for everything done to us and them? Far from it. Because bad things happen rarely, and over time they diminish in severity, number and everything else. And without it everything dies. And she is limited, not only to the self but to efficiency; herself who has limitations because of what she is because she is real, she exists within herself; Nature.

But this goddess is not Jesus, nor Jehovah, nor anyone else but all forms of love herself!

Imagine a cup. Is it any particular name of cup? No. Is it any particular conception we would have a of a cup? No, our sense only go so far. Doers it include air? Yes, as we've discussed. SO what is air? Air is mostly space, otherwise it wouldn't work. It is the Void, everything at once. One big thing.

Or the mask. Religions are masks made for goddess to wear. Some are more accurate than others. All are masks.

 

[ChieftheCef]

We are moral beings and that means that God has given us the choice to go against His will and do evil. This is how evil came into the world with help from Satan who put the idea into Adam and Eve that God was not good and that He lied to them.
God already had a way to deal with evil but as we live in time, this way is not instantaneous but works itself out over time.

This is so assbackwards. We are moral being who feel the reaction of our actions SO we should. ANd that's universal, malleable morality, not Jesus, not Muhammad, Not Buddha, Not Krishna, Not Osarseph. None of them, though they offer glimpses into the universal maleable morality.

 

[firedragon]

Glad you asked. Let's think about nothing, absence. It lacks existence, though it is active in the world. Nothing is the only thing before everything to create. It is what was before, is during and after. The nothing and something show relation, as if made by each other. Nothingness, absence, space-time, the 3d is a lot of incredibly small somethingness, the quantum somethingness. Somethingness, matter etc, is a lot of Nothingness! Take quarks or atoms or molecules etc. Most of what they are is the space between, otherwise they wouldn't be what they are, same with cups. If you take out the air the cup crushes, and in space if you take out the space it's not really it's shape it's something entirely different.

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Besides this matter/energy is actually contorted Voiduousness contorted into somethingness. So nothing is intangible as itself and tangible as somethingness. But how did it create itself? It sheerly was so absence that presence had to be created. There was certain quantum activity in vast amounts just right so it had to become. The Quantum field that continues to cocreatively with all other parts make us is what we owe all of everything to. What requires nothing else despite it's cocreativity? The Void. Are they evil for everything done to us and them? Far from it. Because bad things happen rarely, and over time they diminish in severity, number and everything else. And without it everything dies. And she is limited, not only to the self but to efficiency; herself who has limitations because of what she is because she is real, she exists within herself; Nature.

But this goddess is not Jesus, nor Jehovah, nor anyone else but all forms of love herself!

Imagine a cup. Is it any particular name of cup? No. Is it any particular conception we would have a of a cup? No, our sense only go so far. Doers it include air? Yes, as we've discussed. SO what is air? Air is mostly space, otherwise it wouldn't work. It is the Void, everything at once. One big thing.

Or the mask. Religions are masks made for goddess to wear. Some are more accurate than others. All are masks.

There is no proof of anything in this sermon.

 

[ChieftheCef]

There is no proof of anything in this sermon.

Oh ho ho did you come up with that by yourself or did your pastor help you?

 

[firedragon]

Oh ho ho did you come up with that by yourself or did your pastor help you?

Nope. It comes from that post. No proof. It's a sermon.

 

[ChieftheCef]

"We are moral therefore god"

Is that how you think?

It's not even that it's God, The Animating Force, The Supreme God, Absence, etc exists and we have evolved in such a way sheerly because of God, The Animating Force, The Supreme God, Absence whatever your flavor.