These dogs, we had to shoot them all

[Sunstone]

What's barbaric here is the notion that all Muslims are barbarians and need the West's help to be civilized. That notion is not only barbaric, however, it's arrogant beyond measure.

 

[painted wolf]

Anyone who would group a whole religion, nationality or ethnicity or so on, in such a way is as fault.

Such as grouping all people in "the West" as thinking all Muslims are "filthy barbarians".

wa:do

 

[tomspug]

Care to elaborate?

If you replace the word "dogs" with "Jews" it sounds a lot like how a German might have described the removal of Jews from Nazi Germany. That was what I meant by it.

 

[Sunstone]

Anyone who would group a whole religion, nationality or ethnicity or so on, in such a way is as fault.

Such as grouping all people in "the West" as thinking all Muslims are "filthy barbarians".

wa:do

That's true. It is just as barbaric to say "everyone in the West thinks all Muslims are filthy" as it is to say "all Muslims are filthy". But just to make sure this is clear to everyone reading this thread, Tashan was most certainly not saying that everyone in the West thinks all Muslims are filthy.

 

[Vasilisa Jade]

What's barbaric here is the notion that all Muslims are barbarians and need the West's help to be civilized. That notion is not only barbaric, however, it's arrogant beyond measure.

This whole time I never agreed with the US intervening, from the start with Iraq, but sometimes people really do need mediators to settle disagreements. This doesn't mean taking over and forcing your own version of "civilized" on the two parties though.

 

[TashaN]

If you replace the word "dogs" with "Jews" it sounds a lot like how a German might have described the removal of Jews from Nazi Germany. That was what I meant by it.

I see, i feel sad that the Jews went through all this. Do you think the Zionists are trying to do the same thing now with the Palestinians?

 

[darkendless]

I see, i feel sad that the Jews went through all this. Do you think the Zionists are trying to do the same thing now with the Palestinians?

Only if you believe everything comming out of Palestine and negate what Hamas is doing and has done to Israel then maybe.

Edit: Also, to compare what Israel is doing now to the Nazi regime of eliminating Jews is rather exaggerated don't you think?

 

[DallasApple]

Mind frames that group all together are wrong..Usually they are scared ignorant jealous or a combination or all three..

My brother who has no children calls children "rats"..(and with a look of disgust..not even affectionately)

Love

Dallas

 

[tomspug]

I see, i feel sad that the Jews went through all this. Do you think the Zionists are trying to do the same thing now with the Palestinians?

I think it's clear that neither side is being persecuted more than the other (although one side is clearly suffering more casualties). They are simply two countries at war.

For the record though, Israel has said over and over again (and have demonstrated in their actions) that they tolerate the existence of the Palestinian state. The Palestinians do NOT tolerate the existence of a Jewish state. There's no persecution like the Holocaust, but it's pretty clear which side is being intolerant.

 

[TashaN]

Well, if someone kicked me out of my house, killed my children, then murdered my wife, i would be pretty intolerant, don't you think?

They killed 1000+ so far, and only one israeli has been killed. This is not war, this is a crime. This is NOT a war between two countries. Palestinians have NO country so far. This is an aggressive attack by a racist country against armless people.

 

[darkendless]

Well, if someone kicked me out of my house, killed my children, then murdered my wife, i would be pretty intolerant, don't you think?

They killed 1000+ so far, and only one israeli has been killed. This is not war, this is a crime. This is NOT a war between two countries. Palestinians have NO country so far. This is an aggressive attack by a racist country against armless people.

Its only a crime because Palestine chose the wrong country to attack apparently. Palestine doesn't deserve a country, they attacked Israel many times before now and lost, their claim to the land is void.
What are the rockets Palestine uses, toys? No Tashan your people are not defenceless. Is defending your civilians racist? Is it Israels fault the muslims want to wage war with them?
I think you need to open your eyes and see the big picture, rather than giving one sided evidence. I hate war and this war is disgusting, but i will not condemn Israel because people are dying. Its war, people die!

 

[TashaN]

Its only a crime because Palestine chose the wrong country to attack apparently. Palestine doesn't deserve a country, they attacked Israel many times before now and lost, their claim to the land is void.
What are the rockets Palestine uses, toys? No Tashan your people are not defenceless. Is defending your civilians racist? Is it Israels fault the muslims want to wage war with them?
I think you need to open your eyes and see the big picture, rather than giving one sided evidence. I hate war and this war is disgusting, but i will not condemn Israel because people are dying. Its war, people die!

I know you are angry with Muslims because Australians were being slaughtered in Afghanistan by the dozen, and you are still scared to death that your cousin might spend his last beautiful precious moments there, but that's not an excuse to bash Muslims continuously whenever you get the chance to do so.

 

[England my lionheart]

Well, if someone kicked me out of my house, killed my children, then murdered my wife, i would be pretty intolerant, don't you think?

They killed 1000+ so far, and only one israeli has been killed. This is not war, this is a crime. This is NOT a war between two countries. Palestinians have NO country so far. This is an aggressive attack by a racist country against armless people.

I wonder how the victims of suicide bombers families in Israel would regard your attack on "harmless people" statement.
From most of the Muslims i know none would associate Hamas with being a Muslim and if you need to see who is racist please read the Hamas charter its plain to see.

 

[.lava]

anybody know Israeli charter?

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[Jeremy Mason]

But they were just dogs. Why should they be upset if we imprisoned them?

They were trying to bite some of us. In fact, in one occasion they have succeeded to do so.

What other options?

We allowed them to remain there after we moved in but they weren't happy about it because there was a shortage in food and care for them. They tried to attack but we managed to put them in a big cage for our safety. They were acting as a group in a weird way.

Before I read the rest of this thread, I see where this going.

 

[EiNsTeiN]

I wonder how the victims of suicide bombers families in Israel would regard your attack on "harmless people" statement.

It's a loop..Suicide bombers were responding to attacks to their harmless families as well..

 

[EiNsTeiN]

Its only a crime because Palestine chose the wrong country to attack apparently. Palestine doesn't deserve a country, they attacked Israel many times before now and lost, their claim to the land is void.

So, in Tashan's analogy, do you think the dogs had no right attacking them?

 

[.lava]

It's a loop..Suicide bombers were responding to attacks to their harmless families as well..

but it is not an excuse to blow yourself with bunch of people. it might be a result of hopeless thought chain. yet, it is against anything we know and follow.

problem here is that Israel is not trying to punish who's guilty of suicide bombs or attacks to Israel. Israel is simply performing a genocide on Gazan people. Western keep telling us about this suicide bombs. but wait a minute, you already call them terrorists. there are more than 1000 deads in Gaza, mostly civilians, children and women. nobody could justify this massacre by repeating what terrorists did. you can not! if i ask you to bring photos of dead Israelis you could not bring dozens of dead kids, could you? here is reality, we can. i can show you maybe hundreds of incidents where Israel killed innocent kids, innocent people, unarmed men. but someone blwe himself up does not justfify actions of recognized Government. Palestine does not have an army since its government were announced terrorist. but Israel has an army with new weapons and great support from USA, USA still keeps sending weapons and Israel is using them. they dropped tons of bombs on Gazan people. why do not they go into Gaza and deal with Hamas alone? why don't they arrest who's guilty instead of killing hundreds of innocent people? and why don't you start asking right question after all? do you really need to be Gazan to understand? if Hamas was recognized as government would their action be justified as well? is that what they need? a word to be said by others who's 'helping' their enemy? does your logic accept this game?

don't bother responding me, i am kinda talking to my self, sorry.

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[EiNsTeiN]

I wasn't finding an excuse for suicide bombing, I was just justifying it in the same way Israel justifies its actions..
If thats considered terrorism, then what's Israel is doing is also terrorism. If whats Israel is doing is considered "self defence" then so is the suicide bombing..

 

[EiNsTeiN]

You can't just allow what's Israel doing because it's a country while Hamas is not!...Both are terrorism (or self defense?)