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These dogs, we had to shoot them all

Eutopos

Peace
I wasn't finding an excuse for suicide bombing, I was just justifying it in the same way Israel justifies its actions..
If thats considered terrorism, then what's Israel is doing is also terrorism. If whats Israel is doing is considered "self defence" then so is the suicide bombing..

Actually i will have to disagree with you, just because Israel is doing the wrong thing, that doesn't mean you have to do it too...
let's assume that you were robbed, does it give you the right to go and steal, that is the way i see it
 

EiNsTeiN

Boo-h!
Actually i will have to disagree with you, just because Israel is doing the wrong thing, that doesn't mean you have to do it too...
let's assume that you were robbed, does it give you the right to go and steal, that is the way i see it
I didn't say the suicide bombing was the right thing to do...But though, a kind of logical response (for people who had lost everything)
me said:
You can't just allow what's Israel doing because it's a country while Hamas is not!...Both are terrorism (or self defense?)
 

.lava

Veteran Member
I wasn't finding an excuse for suicide bombing, I was just justifying it in the same way Israel justifies its actions..
If thats considered terrorism, then what's Israel is doing is also terrorism. If whats Israel is doing is considered "self defence" then so is the suicide bombing..

dear friend, i am not judging you. i apologize if i sounded that way. i just do not think suicide bombs are self-defense. self-destructive if you ask me.

what Israel did and does to Palestinian can never be compared to what Hamas did and does to Israeli. not comparable at all. people sometimes judge Hamas as if Hamas and Israel were equal. then they judge Hamas as if Hamas is terror group. depends on the issue guess. that's double standards.


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.lava

Veteran Member
I wonder how the victims of suicide bombers families in Israel would regard your attack on "harmless people" statement.
From most of the Muslims i know none would associate Hamas with being a Muslim and if you need to see who is racist please read the Hamas charter its plain to see.

Israeli charter? ever wonder what it might be?

Kill Civilians? The Talmud Tells Me So

Kill Civilians? The Talmud Tells Me So | Real Jew News


"If you eat with a 'goy' it is the same as eating with a dog." (Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b)

TashaN's title was not that wrong after all...

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tomspug

Absorbant
Well, if someone kicked me out of my house, killed my children, then murdered my wife, i would be pretty intolerant, don't you think?

They killed 1000+ so far, and only one israeli has been killed. This is not war, this is a crime. This is NOT a war between two countries. Palestinians have NO country so far. This is an aggressive attack by a racist country against armless people.
You are being intolerant. It was the ISRAELIS that were diplomatically removed from THEIR homes in the Gaza Strip. And the Palestinians are clearly NOT an armless people. How in the world could you possibly believe that without being on drugs or brainwashed?
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Israeli charter? ever wonder what it might be?

Kill Civilians? The Talmud Tells Me So

Kill Civilians? The Talmud Tells Me So | Real Jew News


"If you eat with a 'goy' it is the same as eating with a dog." (Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b)

TashaN's title was not that wrong after all...

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I'm sorry but that site looks like it belongs in the bin,i am not saying that there are'nt extremists in Israel because that would not be true and i know little of the Talmud in fact i know more of the Quran so its pointless going down that road.
It is not until people stop citing stuff from hundreds if not thousands of years ago that any headway can be made,the past has gone but the future is always coming so it is better to build something worthy in the present for the future of Palestine.
One saddening fact is 30% of Hamas suicide Bombers are not even Palestinian,and commiting such an act is counter productive,my country has suffered the effects of suicide bombing,this and the Hamas charter are the reasons the majority here have no sympathy for Palestine.
 

EiNsTeiN

Boo-h!
You are being intolerant. It was the ISRAELIS that were diplomatically removed from THEIR homes in the Gaza Strip. And the Palestinians are clearly NOT an armless people. How in the world could you possibly believe that without being on drugs or brainwashed?
How could you possibly believe that Gaza strip was THEIR homes without being on drugs or brainswashed?

England my Lionheart said:
30% of suicide bombers are not even Palestinian so what does that tell you,suicide bomers are brainwashed into doing it,its a stupid act and makes no sense.
Didn't know that...Can you please provide a reference?
 

EiNsTeiN

Boo-h!
dear friend, i am not judging you. i apologize if i sounded that way. i just do not think suicide bombs are self-defense. self-destructive if you ask me. I agree, and so is what Israel is doing..

what Israel did and does to Palestinian can never be compared to what Hamas did and does to Israeli. not comparable at all. Why? people sometimes judge Hamas as if Hamas and Israel were equal. then they judge Hamas as if Hamas is terror group. depends on the issue guess. that's double standards.

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Elessar

Well-Known Member
Israeli charter? ever wonder what it might be?

Kill Civilians? The Talmud Tells Me So

Kill Civilians? The Talmud Tells Me So | Real Jew News


"If you eat with a 'goy' it is the same as eating with a dog." (Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b)

TashaN's title was not that wrong after all...

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That is one of the most disgusting, offensive lies I have ever set eyes on. That entire site is lies, slander, libel and defamation against the Jewish People, mostly derived from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a Christian tract designed to smear and slander Jews, to rationalize their murderous pogroms, which massacred most of my family in Armenia before the few that escaped made it to relative freedom in the Ummah.

That web site is one of the most disgusting, steaming piles of horse-**** I have ever seen and probably ever will see. They lie about the meanings of Yiddish and Hebrew words, they lie about the Talmud, they lie about everything it means to be Jewish.

You're anti-zionist? Fine. You're anti-Israel? Fine. But anyone who, except unknowingly, spreads these slanderous lies about the Jewish people, cannot expect my sympathy, empathy or understanding - only my disdain and hatred.

EDIT: And I only just found another part of their site, where they identify a person, attacked for his Messianic beliefs, as a Christian. He is a Messianic Jew - I've met him, my family has known his family, my congregation, his congregation. We don't want the support of these antisemites - we reject them.

May their names be expunged from the Book of Life for their slanderous lies.
 
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England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
That is one of the most disgusting, offensive lies I have ever set eyes on. That entire site is lies, slander, libel and defamation against the Jewish People, mostly derived from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a Christian tract designed to smear and slander Jews, to rationalize their murderous pogroms, which massacred most of my family in Armenia before the few that escaped made it to relative freedom in the Ummah.

That web site is one of the most disgusting, steaming piles of horse-**** I have ever seen and probably ever will see. They lie about the meanings of Yiddish and Hebrew words, they lie about the Talmud, they lie about everything it means to be Jewish.

You're anti-zionist? Fine. You're anti-Israel? Fine. But anyone who, except unknowingly, spreads these slanderous lies about the Jewish people, cannot expect my sympathy, empathy or understanding - only my disdain and hatred.

EDIT: And I only just found another part of their site, where they identify a person, attacked for his Messianic beliefs, as a Christian. He is a Messianic Jew - I've met him, my family has known his family, my congregation, his congregation. We don't want the support of these antisemites - we reject them.

May their names be expunged from the Book of Life for their slanderous lies.

As you say its discusting,i cannot believe people actually take that in but i suppose they will believe what they want to believe,its a sad world we live in.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Israel plans ceasefire, Hamas vows to fight on | U.S. | Reuters

I am glad that there will be a ceasefire but after reading this article it is clear what will happen next,the Rockets will continue and it will all start again but it will be worse.
If Hamas had any thought for its people it would represent them as best it can,Rockets will not feed their people,will not rebuild the ruins of their country,Schools and Hospitals are whats required not stupid Rockets.
Hamas's leader has vowed to fight on,what a brave man so far from the fighting,egged on by outside influences its the same old same old BS,and the victims of this brave leader are his own people,with a leader like that who needs enemies.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
I sincerly hope that Hamas would stop those rockets now!!!


Ditto,from an outside view all that matters to me is to get into Palestine with as much aid as possible and as quickly as possible,then the UN and the Arab League need to sort this out once and for all.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Palestine needs a long rest now to rebuild its infrastructure and get in as much aid as needed..

Yes but will it happen,there are factions other than Hamas in Palestine that are just going to carry on,i have little faith in Abbas or Fatah either,i just wish there was someone somewhere in Palestine who could come forward and unite the country and actually do something positive for the people.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
If the Palestinian people are busy with jobs and a thriving economy, they will not be as easily fooled by people like Hamas.

Desperate people cling to whatever can give them hope. Hamas feeds on that desperation.

wa:do
 

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
I know you are angry with Muslims because Australians were being slaughtered in Afghanistan by the dozen, and you are still scared to death that your cousin might spend his last beautiful precious moments there, but that's not an excuse to bash Muslims continuously whenever you get the chance to do so.
Thats completely irrelevant. There is another topic to discuss that. Im simply saying to you that i dislike how much condemnation Israel is recieving because of statements like yours.
I dont have a problem with muslims. I have a problem with muslims who try to kill innocent people and its frustrating because all we hear about is muslim extremists. Why? Why do we not hear about other religions?
 

.lava

Veteran Member

OK, if it is not laws of Talmud, then which law give Israeli army the right to hit 20 kids a day with its bombs?

i am sorry, i know that you do not know me. i can not prove you what i am. i am aware of this. but i am gonna say it anyway. i am not just concerned about Muslims. i am also concerned about Jewish people. only after this last attack of Israel, some incidents started to happen. in Sweden, for example, some Jewish were attacked. Jewish people do not feel safe and they have a point. where were these attackers before? all of a sudden people turned out to be anti semitic? how?

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