Alceste
Vagabond
No, it's to be consistent with mainstream terminology for the region in question outside of Israel and the Jewish diaspora. Why, what do you call it?
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No, it's to be consistent with mainstream terminology for the region in question outside of Israel and the Jewish diaspora. Why, what do you call it?
Hi Alceste,
"outside of Israel" is another a non-neutral phrase. I must admit the way you're using "Jewish diaspora" doesn't fit with my understanding of the phrase. Can you explain how you're using "Jewish diaspora" in this situation?
Thanks
"outside of Israel" is another a non-neutral phrase. I must admit the way you're using "Jewish diaspora" doesn't fit with my understanding of the phrase. Can you explain how you're using "Jewish diaspora" in this situation?
Thanks
Hi Luis,
"Palestinian territories" is not equal to "where Palestinians live". If they were equal, then Jordan, and most probably Egypt, are also guilty of holding "Palestinian territories".
I don't think "territory" is synonymous with "homeland".
The other tribes are ignored even when Hamas is not proactively attacking Israel.
"Palestinian territories" is not equal to "where Palestinians live". If they were equal, then Jordan, and most probably Egypt, are also guilty of holding "Palestinian territories".
I don't think "territory" is synonymous with "homeland".
The other tribes are ignored even when Hamas is not proactively attacking Israel.
And do you really think that the terrorists' rocket launching can justify the bombings over Gaza civilians?
An Italian journalist was recently killed by a Israeli bomb, together with 4 Palestinians.
Will Italy be resentful towards Israel? No: we Italians are Christians and we turn the other cheek. We forgive.
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sandandfoam
Veteran Member
Go away out of that.
I never implied or even thought of it as a guilt. But sure, there are probably Palestinian territories in Jordan and Egypt as well. Not to say that they should be treated the same, mind you.
And you think they should not, is that it?
It's the truth. We have never reacted despite the tens of Christian missionaries or reporters killed in those countries.
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
I think the Mafia in Italy suggests that the your statement that "we Italians are Christians and we turn the other cheek" is not wholly accurate.
I suspect that Italians, Palestinians and Israelis are exactly the same, in general terms, as people everywhere.
Mafiosi are not Christians. They are people who belong to Hell
Is such an attitude Christian?
dantech
Well-Known Member
Well doesn't Christianity condemn anyone who doesn't believe in Jesus to Hell?
No. Christianity says that you go to Hell if you do evil, whether you are Christian, or atheistic, or Hindu etc etc
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
But they're Italians and 'we Italians are Christians'.
My point is that generalisations about Israelis, Palestinians or anyone else have nothing useful to add to any discussion that may ever lead to resolution.
You are practically comparing Israeli leaders to mafiosi
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
Try reading what I said again.
Did I say that Jews are not loving and forgiving people?
They are. I was underlining the reasons why the Italian government doesn't waste time in declaring wars
because Italians have that Christian attitude of resignation and forgiveness
Moishe3rd
Yehudi
Due to the fact that your sentence is pejorative against Israel, I am going to change your sentence to reflect reality:
"And, do you really think that the terrorist organization of Hamas, which has fired roughly 3,000 missiles into Israel in this latest conflict, attempting to murder or wound approximately 80% of Israel's population, no matter who they are - civilian or soldier; Jew or Muslim; Israeli or non Israeli - costing Israel hundreds of millions of dollars, and who has built and USED terror tunnels into Israel for the sole purpose of murdering and kidnapping as many random people as possible - civilian or soldier; Jew or Muslim; Israeli or non Israeli - can justify targeted Israeli attacks against military targets in Gaza where civilians, who have been instructed and sometimes forced by Hamas to occupy a military target area, such as a missile launch site or a building where Hamas terror tunnels originate, sometimes get killed?"
Yes. 100%
And, so do you if you were remotely honest with yourself, regarding if you found yourself in the same situation as I have described above.
Unless, of course, I am wrong and you believe that it is your duty to die rather than defend yourself.
Alceste
Vagabond
There are many dubious factual claims in your reworking of this post. I prefer the original form.
You fight terrorism through the means allowed by the international law.
This is, in fact, a reality that too many assiduously deny. Hamas is a cancerous parasite and a persistent threat to all around them. They are also an organization which was, prior to the most recent conflict, losing support, struggling for legitimacy, and rushing headlong into bankruptcy - all serious problems solved with Netanyahu's indispensable aid.
The bottom line is this: you do not crush Hamas by building settlements and killing civilians.