This is why Black Lives SHOULD Matter

[Epic Beard Man]

seriously I think Frankenstein is part Black, at least that's what he told us, its rather rude to try and argue with that, he's certainly not Black like Rachel Dolezal

I'm not saying anything I only questioned his picture, but I also questioned when he said he was "considered black." Contextually there is a difference. I am black I even showed a picture of my real face in these forums a while back. I am black. There is no presumption, nor consideration, nor questioning. I think what I and @Kooky were getting at is the word in context. If he says he is black then he is, I'm not questioning anything, just the context of his statement of being considered (I assume by others) that is what I question. In the context of the OP, his ethnic heritage or what I think does not matter. What matters is what is going on with police killing unarmed black men in a system that needs to be reformed.

 

[Lyndon]

Frankenstein told us he was Black years ago, I certainly have no reason not to believe him, I wouldn't make any issue of it.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

It's pretty offensive to call someone's ethnic heritage into question like that. It's like, how dare you. I know who my mother and father were. And Dominican, Arab, Latino? What the hell? That's as dumb as when this ignorant white person asked if I was Polynesian. Sorry, my dad's side of the family are boring black folks from New Orleans and my mom's side are boring white people from Ohio. I'm not "exotic".

I apologize if you were offended at how I worded it to where it made you feel I was questioning your heritage. As long as I've been a member here I've never questioned your heritage or anything cause largely you and I agree more than we disagree. The only thing I just had to raise my eyebrow on is when you say and this is not quoted verbatim, that people consider you black. So thereby, my natural response is you either consider yourself black or not. For clarification on your part, it could have been worded better. When I mentioned Dominicans, Arabs, and Latinos is because in those certain communities some members have certain Afrocentric features that would make them look like members of the African diaspora. But regardless, I apologize.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I apologize if you were offended at how I worded it to where it made you feel I was questioning your heritage. As long as I've been a member here I've never questioned your heritage or anything cause largely you and I agree more than we disagree. The only thing I just had to raise my eyebrow on is when you say and this is not quoted verbatim, that people consider you black. So thereby, my natural response is you either consider yourself black or not. For clarification on your part, it could have been worded better. When I mentioned Dominicans, Arabs, and Latinos is because in those certain communities some members have certain Afrocentric features that would make them look like members of the African diaspora. But regardless, I apologize.

Fair enough. No need to apologize.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Do you think the disparate number of cop shootings of black people is an indication of racism or not? Overall police behavior in the U.S. seems to require significant reform, but statistics show that black people are disproportionately targeted by police violence. Addressing the racial element doesn't preclude also addressing the overarching problem of incompetence and undue violence from cops.

If I were discussion the concerns, it would focus around how legalizing gay marriage became so heavily emphasised and focused on that when it became federally legalized that many thought that meant the struggle for LGBT equality was done and over with, that full equality has been achieved. That not only is not the case, a recent Supreme Court case reinforced that is not the case.
With Rev, he's onto an area of similar concern, revealing that some believe making a thread about how more likely men are to be killed than women by cops is worthy of ridicule.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Frankenstein told us he was Black years ago, I certainly have no reason not to believe him, I wouldn't make any issue of it.

By "us" you mean you and others who were a part of that conversation to which I myself wasn't, so I didn't know. Can't blame me for something I didn't know.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

seriously I think Frankenstein is part Black, at least that's what he told us, its rather rude to try and argue with that, he's certainly not Black like Rachel Dolezal

No one is black like Rachel. Lol.

 

[Lyndon]

By "us" you mean you and others who were a part of that conversation to which I myself wasn't, so I didn't know. Can't blame me for something I didn't know.

Of course not, by us I was referring to other forum members at the time,

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Of course not, by us I was referring to other forum members at the time,

Cool, glad we all came to an understanding.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

No one is black like Rachel. Lol.

I'm glad she was widely rejected and not granted permission to use the same sort of claims we do. She really is a stereotypical white person shamelessly feeling entitled to take whatever she wants for herself.

 

[Lyndon]

Hardly stereotypical for a white person!! I think it more likely she believed herself that she was adopted or had a different father, she did a lot to try and help Black people, kind of a sad story how it ended.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Hardly stereotypical for a white person!! I think it more likely she believed herself that she was adopted or had a different father, she did a lot to try and help Black people, kind of a sad story how it ended.

That's the thing about stereotypes. They generally aren't true. But it's that image we hold of "this is what an aresling of x demograph looks like." Like a stereotypical metalhead. A stereotypical woman. A stereotypical hipster. A stereotypical Christian.
We all do it so don't try to get out of it.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I'm glad she was widely rejected and not granted permission to use the same sort of claims we do. She really is a stereotypical white person shamelessly feeling entitled to take whatever she wants for herself.

This is my favorite white woman who thinks she is black. She's racist and crazy as hell, too. She went why further than Rachel did. Lmao.

Spoiler: Trashy girl on Maury, lol

 

[Shadow Wolf]

This is my favorite white woman who thinks she is black. She's racist and crazy as hell, too. She went why further than Rachel did. Lmao.

Spoiler: Trashy girl on Maury, lol

Out of all the times we need a real life Uncle Ruckus (no relations).

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Out of all the times we need a real life Uncle Ruckus (no relations).

And she's German with a thick accent, which makes it even worse.

 

[Kooky]

Looking over the whole thread, your race (& mine)
is only an issue when disagreeing with the OP.
Otherwise, one gets no grief for posting...even
the white guys, as long as they support the OP.
I find this ad hoc standard inconsistent.

It is an issue when people are weaponizing their racial identity specifically to invalidate and delegitimize other people's arguments in an effort to silence them in a discussion. It is certainly worthy of commentary, I would think, when a person who typically uses terms like "urban thugs" to characterize the Black community suddenly rediscovers their racial heritage, seemingly for the sole purpose of 'owning the SJWs' in an online discussion.

Perhaps we should keep these personal things private that we actually want to be private, even if we might have to face the result that we may not 'win' an exchange on the Internet for once.

 

[Revoltingest]

Perhaps we should keep these personal things private that we actually want to be private, even if we might have to face the result that we may not 'win' an exchange on the Internet for once.

A better approach....
We needn't carefully guard who we are. And others
won't challenge, dismiss, or attack one's identity.

Also, this thread is posted specifically in a debate
forum. Yet debate has been met with racially charged
ad hominem attacks. One always has the option of
non-debate forums where challenge is prohibited.

 

[Kooky]

One always has the option of
non-debate forums where challenge is prohibited.

And yet here you are, complaining when people challenge others' arguments.

 

[Revoltingest]

This is my favorite white woman who thinks she is black. She's racist and crazy as hell, too. She went why further than Rachel did. Lmao.

Spoiler: Trashy girl on Maury, lol

Out of all the times we need a real life Uncle Ruckus (no relations).

The show treats her as an offensive joke. But it's clear
that she has some serious brain vs body problems.
Is it funny in the same way men transitioning to women
(or vice versa) is funny?

 

[Revoltingest]

And yet here you are, complaining when people challenge others' arguments.

You've missed the important distinction about challenges.
They should be based upon issues, not the person. But
when you challenge someone's legitimacy based upon race,
this runs against the spirit of the forum.

You freely admitted not reading my posts that you respond to.
But if you want to join a conversation, it's best to pay attention
so you understand what's been said. I also recommend reading
the forum's rules & mission statement.
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