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This & That: The Reflections of Allfoak

allfoak

Alchemist
Heaven is hidden within.
Like a treasure in a field waiting to be found.
For those the journey they dare begin
It is the treasure they shall win.

When not a word to be said unkind is the path that is taken,
Only then will the light shine and we will awaken,
To see the heaven for which we are all awaiting.

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allfoak

Alchemist
The way in which I arrived at my conclusions is through experience and study, along with a lot of sacrifice, searching for answers to understand my experience.
I have had many unusual and profound experiences in my life since childhood.
I have spent my whole life in search of answers to these things that have happened to me.

I will ask you a question.
If one night as a 12 yr old you found yourself floating above your body looking down on it and the thought comes to you, which one is me and then you found yourself back in your body again, would it cause you to want to know what happened to you?

Or suppose one day you decide to get baptized because you are convinced it is the right thing to do and you have such a profound experience that it changes your life forever?
A sudden clarity of knowledge came upon me.
I felt profoundly clean inside like I had just been given a new start.
If this happened to you wouldn't you want to know why?

How about if your dead mother showed up at your front door one day and you had a conversation with her?
Would you want to know what the hell just happened to you?
I have used all of my time and energy searching for answers.
If these experiences are not enough I could add a dozen more.

Wouldn't you begin to consider that maybe there might be something to this spirit thing?
I have dedicated my life to knowing the answer to that question.
 

allfoak

Alchemist
The Virgin Birth
When i read scripture from any religion i always read it as if it is written to me personally.
So when i read this verse, this is how apply it.

What this verse tells me is that i have to become a virgin.
How do i do this?
By becoming morally clean.
This is a task that many are either unable or unwilling to do and so it is looked upon as being foolishness.
Those who do it however, know better.

If one does this, a miracle will occur.
A birth will occur inside, which is Emmanuel or God with us.
This is my experience.

There are many who have had this experience and begin to think that they are the second coming of Jesus in the flesh.
There is little doubt that these people have had some kind of an experience that they do not understand.
The reason i believe they react the way they do is because they did not know to expect it, nor do they have any idea what has happened to them.

This perspective helps to understand many other verses in the Bible that are otherwise obscure in their meaning.
In particular the new creation verses become real, instead of accepted on blind faith.

I understand that there are other things that seem to cause people to experience this temporarily.
It can be described from a psychological perspective but i have yet to find the explanation to be sufficient.
These types of experiences are often temporary.
While they are not forgotten, they often do not last.
Some of the things that can cause people to have this experience are drugs, meditation,and severe depression, i am sure there are many others.

It is often described as a feeling of oneness with everything.
And, or, a clarity of understanding that they have never known before.
Along with many other similar experiences.
A more permanent experience occurs when one does it by cleansing oneself both physically and morally.
 
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allfoak

Alchemist
“The narratives of the Doctrine are its cloak. The simple look only at the garment — that is, upon the narrative of the Doctrine; more they know not. The instructed, however, see not merely the cloak, but what the cloak covers.”
(The Zohar, iii., 152; Franck, 119.)

“The Mysteries of the Faith (are) not to be divulged to all. . . . . It is requisite to hide in a mystery the wisdom spoken.”
(Clem. Alex., “Strom.” 12.)
 

allfoak

Alchemist
"The Principles of Truth are Seven; he who knows these,
understandingly, possesses the Magic Key before whose
touch all the Doors of the Temple fly open."--The Kybalion.

The Seven Hermetic Principles, upon which the entire Hermetic Philosophy is based, are as follows:

1. The Principle of Mentalism.
2. The Principle of Correspondence.
3. The Principle of Vibration.
4. The Principle of Polarity.
5. The Principle of Rhythm.
6. The Principle of Cause and Effect.
7. The Principle of Gender.
 

allfoak

Alchemist
This is an excellent explanation for why we are here, where we are from and how it happened.


Each level of being brings forth from within itself the next levels -- and that is why it is said that there is only the One in which we all dwell. So if there is the One, then why don't we know ourselves as the One -- and how did the many come into existence? Also, does our knowing that there is the One, eliminate the many? These are difficult questions for man to answer, because they not only require him to embrace the paradoxical reality that both positions are true, even though they appear to conflict, but they require the development of the embryonic essence of soul-self into a state of maturity.

If, at the very core of our Being, there is the One, then from within the one we see the Dynamic forces of Male/Female which are often referred to as Father/Mother God immerge. But in this divided reality where each is imbued with the Divine DNA of the original One, each has their own will and consciousness that is separate and apart from the other. But in moving out into the next level of Creation and manifesting this divided state, the two can no longer know the One while they exist in this state of duality. Why? Because, in the division of the two, while something was gained in the ability to interact from opposite polarities, the Knowledge of the One can only exist when the division is overcome. And we can observe this same reality in a marriage between a man and woman -- neither ceases to exist independently from the other on a physical plane, and yet, there is a third force present that can be said to be the measure of the union of the two. Moreover, even that third force is imbued with the Divine Pattern because in the Alpha of the relationship, it lacks experiential substance -- because no experiences have taken place. So it is the dark void of Creation. But as the two seek to know, this process of knowing can only be founded in the third force which is the product of the two -- and it is the third force that evolves as it brings the two back into dynamic harmony in search of knowledge -- which is ultimately found in the One.

Because all things exist within the Divine Pattern and are imbued with the DNA of the One, what we find is that Active Principle which we call Father-God, possessing the Divine Pattern within Self, and we see the same Replication taking place within both Father/Mother God as they move out into the next level of being. So at this level of being, Father-God is actually three -- and this three forms the heavenly triad. Mother-God, which is the opposite polarity, is also imbued with the replicated Divine Pattern, and becomes the earthly triad. The original Third Force which is the balance, while maintaining this balance within the center of the two, must be understood within the Divine Pattern within itself as existing across the spectrum of what we call time. It being the Mind of God, is the Third Force that evolves Creation from the dark void of absolute unknowing, to the evolved state of Absolute Knowing and Light.

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allfoak

Alchemist
..The "600 series" continues...

Taking Father God separate and apart from Mother God for a moment, because Father God is imbued with the DNA of Creation and has the Divine Pattern within Self, at another level of being there is the heavenly duality that as with all dualistic forces, is actually three because of the balance -- and since the third force is that of mind, once again we see it subject to evolution over what we call time. Now you also must understand that because each of these heavenly dualistic polarities are imbued with the DNA of the ONE, they each have their own will and reality separate and apart from the other, and the balance between the two is that of the Heavenly Mind. At this level of being, the Father can only be known through the oneness of the two, and this can only be accomplished in the third force. Which means that while the heavenly three originally emerged from the reality of Father-God, none of the three is Father-God. Yet, with the evolution of the third force over that equation of time, the duality can be erased in the third force which would then restore the knowledge of the Unity found in Father-God. So in the parable of the prodigal son, we see the elder son which retains the active heavenly principle, the younger son while being feminine in relation to the active principle, is portrayed as male because it is active from the perspective of an opposite polarity -- and this is the same reality that portrays all twelve disciples as male -- and yet, on another level, some of them are female in relation to the opposite polarity on the opposing column. And especially in scripture, this is another one of those confusing paradoxes that most people can't deal with. Its like this: Within the feminine sphere, the feminine being imbued with the DNA of the ONE, is also an active force/principle, and is only purely feminine in relation to the opposite polarity. And this is why man must be a fit bride or the Bridegroom -- because while the male in this world is male in relation to the female in this world, they are both female in relation to their inner spiritual nature. So the male in this world is an active-feminine reality, and the female in this world is a reflective or passive female reality. Which also means that all that we said in the above about Father-God moving out into the next level of Creation by virtue of the division within self, the same is true of the triad that is formed out of Mother-God which is the powers of the earth.

Because time is a dimension of mind -- and the way that we perceive it, it is an illusion in that all things remain. God the Source which is the ONE, does not disappear because at a lower level of Creation we have Mother/Father God and the balance with is the Logos/Son of God -- with the Son and Daughter within the Logos being represented across that dimension we call Time. And if we call the ONE the Ancient of Days because that aspect of God has no discernable beginning -- we cannot call Father/Mother God the Ancient of Days because in their divided reality -- each having a Will of their own because in the DNA replication, each has the same qualities as the Whole -- but because of the division of polarities, neither can know the Source except through the evolution of the Third Force which makes the Two One at a state of Maturity in the Omega. And in the same way, while the heavenly triad sprang forth from the Father, because of the duality and the individualized wills, none of the three can be said to be the Father, just as none of the earthly triad can be said to be the Mother. And because, as the Original Third Force is moved out into the next lower level of Creation -- and can only manifest the balance of the heavenly triad in relation to the earthly triad -- and is therefore subject to the dimension of time as portrayed within the Alpha and Omega, that center which in a linear perspective is the fourth kingdom, is the product of the forces of heaven and earth.
 

allfoak

Alchemist
....more of the same...

What causes growth and development is the interaction of the male/female forces which causes the third-force balance to evolve. The problem is that while linear is true on one paradoxical level, its opposite is true on another level. This can be seen in the fact that while we are subject to time, on another level time is merely a dimension of consciousness and is an illusion. In much the same way, on one level of Creation there is Absolute Oneness -- but on another level there is division. And while from one perspective, there is nothing but God, because of the divided reality, we cannot call each individual piece God. It is also important to understand that in the same way that we can look at an octave from a linear perspective -- and the same is true when we see light through a prism, we can detect that the One is made up of the seven (colors), and each of those colors possess an individuality of its own -- and in the same way that the One cannot exist apart from the seven, neither can the seven exist apart from the One. Moreover, on another level, our linear perception of the seven notes to an octave, or the seven colors of light or the rainbow, is an illusion because of the three heavenly powers that are on one level separate and distinct from the three earthly powers -- along with the inclusion of the center third-force that is itself subject to the Alpha and Omega realities of time in order to understand the threefold reality of the third-force of the fourth kingdom. So linear perception can only supply us a very limited view, because on another level reality cannot be seen as linear. And on another level, the parable of the prodigal son can be portrayed as the heavenly triad manifest in the elder son, the earthly triad manifest as the younger son who is under the power of this world (the far country) -- with the state of mind and being balance in the fourth kingdom of man which is of both heaven and earth. But we must also remember that Creation did not stop at this lofty level, but continued to create the lesser realities as the six became the twelve (with the projected reality of the seven making the fourteen) -- and this division within divided realities as it moves out into the lower realms of nature, is what brought all of Creation into being. Each level is ignorant of the level just preceding it, because of the divided reality that each level of Creation is imbued with. And each subsequent level can only know itself, and it's source of being, through the third force that over the evolution of the alpha and omega, has the power to restore oneness.

Going back to the heavenly triad: In the beginning of the Alpha, the great void existed because of the lack of experiential knowledge. In striving to Know Self, without the Light of experiential knowledge, the primal intelligence moved into the lower realms of Creation as described in the above by virtue of division within Self, and because each lower level of Creation has a will of its own, the primal
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consciousness became lost in the quagmire of divided realities which are often portrayed as the Fall of Man. But if we embrace the mindset of most counterfeit religious authorities who attempt to place blame and find fault, there is no fault and there is no blame -- i.e., all the divided realties came into being out of necessity, and because they were supposed to in order for God to know Self. Moreover, while it can be said that on one level all religious teachings and concepts are true with respect to their own fragmented reality, on another level they are false because of the paradoxical nature of reality and the fact that all mind is expressed through the twelve spheres of the Tree of Life which has the power to harmonize the other realities when in balance. So in the heavenly triad we have the duality of the male/female opposites which is expressed in the third force. The elder son is the top most chakra, the younger son with is a feminine reflection of the elder is in the diagram at the right the one in the lower head. And the balance or product of the two is the soul-self -- the Light of which is observed by those who meditate on the third eye. And here is the true quagmire -- i.e., the size and intensity of the Light of the soul, is directly proportionate to the marriage or substance of the relationship between the duality of the fifth and seventh chakras -- which is directly related and in proportion to the larger divided reality of heaven -- and the three lower chakras (red, orange and yellow) are in fact foundational to the three heavenly chakras in the head -- which means that linear reality cannot be used here -- and it also means that our lower selves became lost in the earthly natures in what is portrayed as the original fall of man. Now, the green heart chakra is that of the fourth kingdom of man -- and is a purely transient kingdom that is subject to the cycles of life over that dimension that we call time. But we also must remember that the fourth kingdom is also an outer expression of the original Logos moved out into a lesser reality. So it maintains its connection to what we call the Logos -- especially when the third-force soul reality and the third-force of the earthly triad are all brought into Absolute Oneness. So while each of the kingdoms and heaven/earth dualities on one level are separate like the colors of light when projected through a prism, all evolution is dependent upon the merger and harmony of the Third Force that is divided across the spectrum of heaven and earth, and also in the ever evolving center of the heart chakra which is the true transient the has the power to bring the All into the ONE.

Since the Earth is really a reflected reality of the Heavenly, the amount of Light of the soul-self that we perceive in the Being of Light in the Near Death Experience, is directly proportionate to the totality of the merger of heaven and earth in the reality of the Whole. And this is why Gurdjieff pointed out the futility of the Eastern way of the yogi who attempts to deny and suppress the lower centers so he can become intoxicated by the Light of the soul in the third eye. And in many ways, the yogi is the opposite of those in the carnal who are intoxicated with the energy and vital life-force in the sex and emotional centers of the lower nature. And those addicted to the sex center in the lower nature, are as subdued and disillusioned as those who are intoxicated with what I portray as the head-sex of the yogi, when reality can only be found in the balance of heaven and earth -- and the evolution of the Son of Man in the heart chakra. Which means that while the yogi can see the Light of the Father-God through the reality of the soul-self, he can neither become the soul-self without the inclusion and balance of the lower nature, and neither can he accomplish what Yeshua did by bringing heaven and earth together into the center, and evolving the Son of Man into the Logos/Son of God.

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allfoak

Alchemist
...more.

The way of the East is a very safe means of soul evolution. It is accomplished over the course of a great number of lifetimes, and by never engaging in sex or activating the lower emotional centers, the yogi slowly grows himself by interacting and helping his disciples. The yogi therefore grows himself by interacting with the fallen natures of his disciples. And this is why Gurdjieff stated that after the yogi achieves activating the third eye and can see the Light, he is powerless to become the Light or even truly know God, because that requires the balance of heaven and earth and the evolution of the Center. Thus, Gurdjieff stated: "The third way is the way of the yogi. This is the way of knowledge, the way of mind. The way of the yogi consists in working on the third room and in striving to enter the fourth room by means of knowledge. The yogi reaches the fourth room by developing his mind, but his body and emotions remain undeveloped and, like the fakir and the monk, he is unable to make use of the results of his attainment. He knows everything but can do nothing. In order to begin to do he must gain the mastery over his body and emotions, that is, over the first and second rooms. To do this he must again set to work and again obtain results by means of prolonged efforts."

The yogi, who is intoxicated by the head-sex and Light of the third eye, cannot become the soul-self, because of his lack of balance. In his intoxicated state, he proclaims his union with God. And while this is the Light that is of the active principle of Father-God, he remains downstream and cannot manifest his soul-self who IS the Being of Light, because of his unbalanced state caused by a lack of development of the reflective foundation of his being. And this is fundamentally why the people of the New Age are totally lacking any worthwhile knowledge of our true self -- i.e., our soul-self that is the Being of Light in the Near Death Experience -- which means that he vast majority of the people of the New Age are as lost as their Christian brothers and sisters. And in many respects, the two groups are opposite sides of the same coin. Christians believe they are saved by Grace, and to even suggest that you have to accomplish something with your life, is interpreted by them as a denial of Christ and the blood of the lamb. This is why they condemned what they called the Judaizers, because they continued to embrace the Law. In a response on another forum we can see this same mindset in the New Age self-denial mindset where the words are expressed: The way of self-determination is not God's Way. "Consider this, from an advanced an uncompromising teacher of the Way of Freedom: "The serious student of The Way of Freedom comes to understand how self-reliance and self-effort only serve to further strengthen the state, stuff, and ways of individuality. That understanding deepens, and becomes more subtle and pervasive, over the years along The Way. The state, stuff, and ways of individuality are that which prevents the True Realization and Incarnation of God, and self-reliance and self-effort are part of the life of individuality. To engage self-reliance and self-effort, including in one's quest for God-Realization, shuts-out the very God one seeks to Realize." Sri Dava Prakasha

Once understood, this rhetoric is parallel to that which is preached in the Christian Churches -- and in the same way that there is no point in posting on a Christian forum because of the prevailing doctrinalized ignorance, what we see in the words of this yogi is parallel to that doctrinalized ignorance. Moreover, there are many Evangelical Christians who feel the Spirit moving them -- even entering into a frenzy much like the intoxication of the New Age head-sex. Each condemns works and striving for higher reality as a denial of God's free gift to the believers. Yet, while they get intoxicated from the flow of vital life-force, neither group can manifest God in their lives because they have yet to even begin to overcome the many levels of their own divided natures. And both are ignorant of their soul-self which they cannot manifest, because of their lack of balance and development of their lower natures which must serve as a foundation for the higher natures in the manner of the portrayal of the Star of David.

A soul such as Yogananda has followed the Eastern path for eons. He hasn't had sex or indulged his lower nature over the course of countless lifetimes -- and perhaps never. He enters with his teacher/guru, and his disciples enter with him, and it is a very controlled environmental path. And like the way of the monk, the way of the yogi can only work in an ashram environment -- i.e., as said of why Gurdjieff left the Eastern path: Gurdjieff's work evolved into the "Fourth Way," which is a method of achieving inner perfection in ordinary life, rather than withdrawing from the world as do the yogi, fakir, and monks. The goal of Fourth Way practitioners is an accelerated transformation, returning to pure essence.

The yogis dwell in the Light of the Father as expressed through the soul-self -- but they cannot become their soul-self because of their own unbalanced path. Neither can God jump over the many lesser levels of Creation -- levels that are divided by Mother/Father God, heaven and earth, and the twelve spheres of mind as expressed through the Tree of Life -- and manifest in them in the manner that God Manifested in Yeshua -- and even the disciples of Yeshua. Moreover, there is another important consideration in this equation -- i.e., because of their path of denial and negation, they exist as lights in the world through the cosmic balance of those who exist at the opposite polarity of the spectrum, and are the embodiment of darkness. And this is why Gurdjieff stated that they not only have no power to make change, but they must never invoke karma or engage in the physical. They cannot be confrontational with the forces of darkness, because their polarity of light is dependent upon the opposite polarity of darkness in the world. They are lights to the world, because their opposites on the cosmic spectrum of balance are the forces of darkness.

In TheWay as manifested in the teachings of Yeshua, the lower nature is evolved and manifest as a foundation for the heavenly -- resulting in the ability to directly evolve the center from the Alpha to the Omega. The disciple of TheWay is not a light to others because of the embodiment of the opposite polarity among other people. The Disciples of TheWay are Lights, because of the balance of heaven and earth within them that enables them to first manifest their soul-self -- evolve that soul-self within the proper foundation -- and bring the soul-self to a state of evolved Completion where the Logos can Manifest -- and in the Manifestation of the Logos, Mother/Father God can be brought together and Absolute Oneness can be achieved with the Essene of God which we call the Ancient of Days -- or in the Gospel of the Nazirenes, the All-Parent where division of Male/Female and Heaven/Earth does not exist. Because the Disciple of TheWay is Complete within himself, he can confront the forces of evil and even Satan itself, and prevail. There is no negative karma that would cause the Disciple of TheWay to fall like it would the powerless yogi, because the Disciple is Complete within self and not dependent upon maintaining balance with he opposite polarity in the manner of the yogi who only develops the upper centers at the expense and negation of the lower.

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allfoak

Alchemist
The Holographic Divine Pattern


"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them."



As Above, So Below -- and what is true of the Macrocosm, is also true of the Microcosm.
That man was Created in the image and likeness of God, means that all that is within God, is also within each of us.
All of Creation is imbued with the polarities of male and female and the offspring of Mother/Father God, the Son of God, The Logos.

Does this not change the nature of religion and what we know about ourselves?


Study reveals substantial evidence of holographic universe


A UK, Canadian and Italian study has provided what researchers believe is the first observational evidence that our universe could be a vast and complex hologram.

Theoretical physicists and astrophysicists, investigating irregularities in the cosmic microwave background (the 'afterglow' of the Big Bang), have found there is substantial evidence supporting a holographic explanation of the universe—in fact, as much as there is for the traditional explanation of these irregularities using the theory of cosmic inflation.

The researchers, from the University of Southampton (UK), University of Waterloo (Canada), Perimeter Institute (Canada), INFN, Lecce (Italy) and the University of Salento (Italy), have published findings in the journal Physical Review Letters.

A holographic universe, an idea first suggested in the 1990s, is one where all the information that makes up our 3-D 'reality' (plus time) is contained in a 2-D surface on its boundaries.



Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2017-01-reveals-substantial-evidence-holographic-universe.html#jCp


Study reveals evidence that the universe is a hologram

Phys. Rev. Lett. 118, 041301 (2017) - From Planck Data to Planck Era: Observational Tests of Holographic Cosmology


"THE ALL creates in its Infinite Mind countless Universes,
which exist for aeons of Time--and yet, to THE ALL, the
creation, development, decline and death of a million Universes
is as the time of the twinkling of an eye."--The Kybalion.

"The Infinite Mind of THE ALL is the womb of Universes."--The
Kybalion.
 
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