Those Goofy Anti-Vax Canuckistanians

[Wu Wei]

Oh, I know the difference.
Upstate NY bears are less....sensitive & caring.

 

[Twilight Hue]

If you're asking if Canadians magically turned into Trump supporters just because Trump praised them, then the answer is... no, lol.

Canadians have big cahonies. They don't need Trump.

This is as good when they parked their trucks on the scales in the GTA and left them sitting there. Priceless.

America used to be that way. I envy and praise the Canucks for standing up for freedoms. They earned the Rubber Duck trophy for the year.

 

[Revoltingest]

Canadians have big cahonies. They don't need Trump.

This is as good when they parked their trucks on the scales in the GTA and left them sitting there. Priceless.

America used to be that way. I envy and praise the Canucks for standing up for freedoms. They earned the Rubber Duck trophy for the year.

It's all in how one stands up for liberty.
Infringing up on the rights of others is rather...BLM.

 

[Debater Slayer]

It's all in how one stands up for liberty.
Infringing up on the rights of others is rather...BLM.

It seems to me that painting BLM with such a negative broad brush isn't useful or reasonable, especially not when talking about a group of protesters who are, unlike BLM, both small and largely uniform in their unreasonable and harmful goals (i.e., reversing health mandates that are proven to save lives).

 

[Vinayaka]

It's not just about the vaccinations any more. It's about inconveniencing a whole lot of people. Some truckers moving produce at the Alberta border lost their entire load, and a lot of pay, some folks had to get medicine, and had no access to it. In Ottawa, many downtown businesses had to close, and anyone living nearby have to put up with 24 hour horns. Half the guys protesting don't even know what they're protesting about. The mandates are ending all over the place, and they're protesting it?

We simply can't have such a small minority holding the rest of us hostage like this. I hope there are many arrests, jail time, and trucking companies that blacklist these guys. It's an illegal occupation at this point, not a protest at all.

I encountered a convoy in my city last Saturday. All it did was slow traffic, and make the rest of us annoyed, or angry. Tomorrow I'm going a different route.

 

[Debater Slayer]

We simply can't have such a small minority holding the rest of us hostage like this. I hope there are many arrests, jail time, and trucking companies that blacklist these guys. It's an illegal occupation at this point, not a protest at all.

I'm a bit conflicted about the blacklisting thing. I'm leaning toward the view that they should either face jail time or get blacklisted, not both. For many truckers, trucking is the only job they can do, and blacklisting them from it could end up creating a homeless or poor person even after they have served their sentence.

The penalties for their actions should be focused on minimizing harm, not on retribution or ruining their lives.

 

[Revoltingest]

It seems to me that painting BLM with such a negative broad brush isn't useful or reasonable, especially not when talking about a group of protesters who are, unlike BLM, both small and largely uniform in their unreasonable and harmful goals (i.e., reversing health mandates that are proven to save lives).

Your objection doesn't strike me as reasonable.
The analogous behavior I referenced was in
abridging the rights of others....lightened with
the qualifier, "rather".

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm a bit conflicted about the blacklisting thing. I'm leaning toward the view that they should either face jail time or get blacklisted....

Trucking companies have the right to refuse to hire
employees who work against the company. This is
just as The View has the right to suspend Goldberg.
Wasn't that a right you supported, ie, an actions have
consequences thing?
As for criminal penalties, that is a matter for government,
not employers.

 

[Vinayaka]

I'm a bit conflicted about the blacklisting thing. I'm leaning toward the view that they should either face jail time or get blacklisted, not both. For many truckers, trucking is the only job they can do, and blacklisting them from it could end up creating a homeless or poor person even after they have served their sentence.

The penalties for their actions should be focused on minimizing harm, not on retribution or ruining their lives.

You're probably being more sensible than me, and I overreact due to watching it. Stupid can be frustrating to watch. This weekend there will be counter-protests. I feel for law enforcement.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Trucking companies have the right to refuse to hire
employees who work against the company. This is
just as The View has the right to suspend Goldberg.
Wasn't that a right you supported, ie, an actions have
consequences thing?
As for criminal penalties, that is a matter for government,
not employers.

Yes, and jail time is a major consequence for their actions. They should face consequences either way, but I don't think making it so that they have no way to redeem themselves or find work again after serving time is helpful to anyone.

Goldberg most likely has far more opportunities to find a job elsewhere than the average trucker does, not to mention that she's already a millionaire anyway.

 

[Vinayaka]

Trucking companies have the right to refuse to hire
employees who work against the company. This is
just as The View has the right to suspend Goldberg.
Wasn't that a right you supported, ie, an actions have
consequences thing?
As for criminal penalties, that is a matter for government,
not employers.

If I was an Alberta company who lost big money on a few trucks not being able to make their deadline because of these whackos, I'd be suing them for losses incurred. Might even gain a few new trucks in the process. Some of them were larger grocery chains who have the $ to do just that, too. You want a fight, you got one.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yes, and jail time is a major consequence for their actions. They should face consequences either way, but I don't think making it so that they have no way to redeem themselves or find work again after serving time is helpful to anyone.

Perhaps it'll just be an appropriate suspension...say 10 years.
Goldberg's would be shorter because it was mere speech
that harmed no one.

Goldberg most likely has far more opportunities to find a job elsewhere than the average trucker does, not to mention that she's already a millionaire anyway.

The employment market is excellent.
Truckers who are traitors to their company
will find other work. It's the right of the
companies, & actions have consequences.

 

[Revoltingest]

We're beginning to look better & better compared
to our northerly neighbors....
Canada protests against Covid measures gain steam

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Anti-mandate does not mean anti-vax.

It shouldn't, but it seems to always mean just that.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I'm saddened at the stupidity of my fellow Canadians. 90% of truckers are vaccinated. These 10% are protesting against the Canadian government's Border policies, but the US has the same policy. Call your dispatcher and ask for all your hauls to be within Canada. Unless dispatch is a random card toss, and dispatcher could do that. How hard is that?

They're playing right into the hands of the government, who happens to know, by basic math that 90% are supportive of the policy. And the opposition guys are half in favor of the trucker protest. Talk about not understanding math. Yeah, let's support 10% of the people and further tick off the 90%.

How much does it cost to not work, and drive across Canada with a Big Rig and park it for two weeks. Freedom, Baby! (Freedom to be a moron.)

Time to call in the army and arrest these hoseheads.

The wild thing is that what they claim to be protesting for doesn't actually help that 10% of unvaccinated Canadian truckers.

The US requires full vaccination for Canadian truckers going into the US, so no unvaccinated Canadian truckers will be doing cross-border routes no matter what the Canadian government does.

What the Canadian rules impact is American unvaccinated truckers' freedom to do cross-border routes.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

It's not just about the vaccinations any more. It's about inconveniencing a whole lot of people. Some truckers moving produce at the Alberta border lost their entire load, and a lot of pay, some folks had to get medicine, and had no access to it. In Ottawa, many downtown businesses had to close, and anyone living nearby have to put up with 24 hour horns. Half the guys protesting don't even know what they're protesting about. The mandates are ending all over the place, and they're protesting it?

And in one case, they tried to set an apartment building in the occupied zone on fire (after trying to bar the exit doors of the building):

This Thread With CCTV Pictures Of Ottawa Protestors Trying To Lock People In A Burning Apartment Building Is F****** Terrifying — Dean Blundell's Sports, News, Podcast Network

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

In a positive turn of events, Ottawa Police are now conceding that their decision last week to aid the protestors was... poorly thought-out:

Police have conceded, in retrospect, allowing trucks to park at the city-owned RCGT Park east of downtown was a key error in what they call an unprecedented protest.

When they offered the lot to the demonstrators more than a week ago, the idea was to get the trucks out of downtown. But protesters soon organized themselves into a supply camp, complete with large tents for food and recently, the addition of three working saunas.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-coventry-stadium-fuel-camp-police-1.6342023

A week into the protest, they've finally decided that letting a group of people threatening to overthrow the government freely bring pickup trucks and wagons full of propane, diesel and gasoline right up to Parliament Hill is not a good idea and are finally - apparently - starting to prevent the occupiers from bringing new fuel in.

 

[Revoltingest]

And in one case, they tried to set an apartment building in the occupied zone on fire (after trying to bar the exit doors of the building):

This Thread With CCTV Pictures Of Ottawa Protestors Trying To Lock People In A Burning Apartment Building Is F****** Terrifying — Dean Blundell's Sports, News, Podcast Network

Website blocked due to trojan.

This one appears clean...
Police arson unit probes Ottawa fire allegation in heat of anti-mandate protest

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Canadians have big cahonies. They don't need Trump..

Tough folks. Protesting reasonable health regulations because they don't want to get a shot.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Tough folks. Protesting reasonable health regulations because they don't want to get a shot.

We need that for US truckers too.

Enough is enough of this paranoia and madness.