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Those who believe there is no God live by faith

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3rdAngel

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Yes, I am being truthful. You do not seem to realize that not believing in God is not claiming that he does not exist. Why is this concept so hard for you to understand? Just because you cannot understand someone does not mean that they are not being honest. All that you have demonstrated is that you cannot think rationally even at a high school graduate level. This is rather disturbing. Once again, not believing in God is not saying that God does not exist. Repeatedly claiming that someone is not honest because you cannot understand rather rudimentary logic is not wise. Do you remember complaining improperly of an ad hom? What yo have posted is far closer to an ad hom, largely due to the fact that your claims are falsehoods. And you know what that means.

I see so I post you and your words saying you do not believe in God or the existence of God and you say no it actually means something else. I do not know how else to understand you accept by what you post in relation to being asked what you believe which was you telling me you do not believe in God or god or the existence of God. :)
 
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Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
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Yes, I am being truthful. You do not seem to realize that not believing in God is not claiming that he does not exist. Why is this concept so hard for you to understand?



Just because you cannot understand someone does not mean that they are not being honest.




All that you have demonstrated is that you cannot think rationally even at a high school graduate level. This is rather disturbing. Once again, not believing in God is not saying that God does not exist. Repeatedly claiming that someone is not honest because you cannot understand rather rudimentary logic is not wise. Do you remember complaining improperly of an ad hom? What yo have posted is far closer to an ad hom, largely due to the fact that your claims are falsehoods. And you know what that means.
He doesn't want to understand it. His world would shatter under the weight of truth.
 

3rdAngel

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I wonder why some Christians are so afraid of atheists or different knowledge, understanding and conclusion? Is it just plain old fear that their dominance is slipping or are they trying to convince themselves of something deep down that is fragile and cracking is really solid and absolute?

I would not be here starting an OP if I was afraid of anything. I would suggest those who call themselves christians that do not know what they believe and follow every wind of teachings are the ones that should be more afraid IMO as they do not know what they believe and are the ones that are really fragile and creacking deep down inside :)
 

Subduction Zone

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I see so I post you and your words saying you do not believe in God or the existence of God and you say no it actually means something else. I do not know how else to understand you accept by what you post in relation to being asked what you believe which was you telling me you do not believe in God or god or the existence of God. :)

Right I do not believe. That is not the same as saying that God does not exist. Logic 101.
 

3rdAngel

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He doesn't want to understand it. His world would shatter under the weight of truth.
If you I have shared anything that is not truth as a Christian you have a duty of love to share with me what my error is. If you cannot than perhaps you should consider what it is you believe as a Christian. You seem more at home with beliefs of Athiests than Christianity from what I can see of the posts you have put forward. Something to think about IMO :)
 

Subduction Zone

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I would not be here starting an OP if I was afraid of anything. I would suggest those who call themselves christians that do not know what they believe and follow every wind of teachings are the ones that should be more afraid IMO as they do not know what they believe and are the ones that are really fragile and creacking deep down inside :)
A Christian follows the teachings of Christ. The people that you are now complaining about seem to do that more so than you do. One thing that they do not do is to constantly bear false witness against their neighbor.
 

Subduction Zone

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If you I have shared anything that is not truth as a Christian you have a duty of love to share with me what my error is. If you cannot than perhaps you should consider what it is you believe as a Christian. You seem more at home with beliefs of Athiests than Christianity from what I can see of the posts you have put forward. Something to think about IMO :)
I think that he has, though I could not swear to it. He is at home with those that can think rationally.
 

3rdAngel

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A Christian follows the teachings of Christ. The people that you are now complaining about seem to do that more so than you do. One thing that they do not do is to constantly bear false witness against their neighbor.
The teachings of Christ are to tell the truth.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
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I would not be here starting an OP if I was afraid of anything. I would suggest those who call themselves christians that do not know what they believe and follow every wind of teachings are the ones that should be more afraid IMO as they do not know what they believe and are the ones that are really fragile and creacking deep down inside :)
Yeah I know. You are exposing yourself to such great danger as an anonymous poster on an online forum. How do you get through the day toting all that risk and danger?

I have found your words unimportant to Christian belief and I do not hear them.
 

Subduction Zone

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So if you do not believe in God or the existence of God or god and you cannot prove it. Be honest now. Your belief is based on faith :)
Nope, and now you just broke the Ninth Commandment again. Not believing is not the same thing as making a claim of nonexistence.

The problem is that you probably realize that your faith is irrational so you are trying to accuse others of your sins. That is why what you are doing is a breaking of the Ninth.
 

3rdAngel

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Yeah I know. You are exposing yourself to such great danger as an anonymous poster on an online forum. How do you get through the day toting all that risk and danger?

I have found your words unimportant to Christian belief and I do not hear them.

Indeed. One thing we can agree on. I share God's Word but you do not hear them feeling more at home with those who do not believe in God.
 

Subduction Zone

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Depends on who you talk to everyone thinks they are rational even those who believe there is no God but have no evidence for their belief
Sorry, but you cannot even understand the difference between a lack of belief and a belief.

That is like not being able to tell the difference between playing football and not playing football.

Is not playing football a sport? Please answer, that is a serious question.
 

3rdAngel

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Nope, and now you just broke the Ninth Commandment again. Not believing is not the same thing as making a claim of nonexistence. The problem is that you probably realize that your faith is irrational so you are trying to accuse others of your sins. That is why what you are doing is a breaking of the Ninth.

How would I have broken the ninth commandment when you do not know what it means to break the 9th commandment as shown earlier. Who is the one breaking the ninth commandment when it was posted earlier that you told me you do not believe in God or the existence of God and when questioned you denied this claim?
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
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If you I have shared anything that is not truth as a Christian you have a duty of love to share with me what my error is. If you cannot than perhaps you should consider what it is you believe as a Christian. You seem more at home with beliefs of Athiests than Christianity from what I can see of the posts you have put forward. Something to think about IMO :)
I did. Others have. But you veil yourself in omniscience and dogma and cannot bear to hear what you do not want to.

I get along with rational, intelligent minds. I don't care if their views differ from mine. I am not their judge. It is not my fault that so few are available to represent more conservative views on Christianity. If you meet one send that person here.
 

3rdAngel

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Sorry, but you cannot even understand the difference between a lack of belief and a belief. That is like not being able to tell the difference between playing football and not playing football.
Is not playing football a sport? Please answer, that is a serious question.

Sure I can. This is shown in post # 699 linked with a detailed response that proves your claims are in error. Still waiting for your response. :)
 

Subduction Zone

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How would I have broken the ninth commandment when you do not know what it means to break the 9th commandment as shown earlier. Who is the one breaking the ninth commandment when it was posted earlier that you told me you do not believe in God or the existence of God and when questioned you denied this claim?
I do understand. You were the one that made the error of cherry picking only the words that you wanted to see in your sources, And you even chose some of the words that applied to you. You have stated falsehoods. If you look up the definition of a falsehood it is simply a claim that is untrue. That is not a statement that you lied, many of your sources specifically used the term "falsehood" I am not sure if any said "lie" if so there were rather few.
 

Subduction Zone

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Sure I can. This is shown in post # 699 linked with a detailed response that proves your claims are in error. Still waiting for your response. :)
Nope, that post refuted your claims. You simply could not understand it.

I told you that I would help you to understand if you could discuss properly. Are you ready to see how you screwed the pooch there?
 
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