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Those who believe there is no God live by faith

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3rdAngel

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I did. Others have. But you veil yourself in omniscience and dogma and cannot bear to hear what you do not want to. I get along with rational, intelligent minds. I don't care if their views differ from mine. I am not their judge. It is not my fault that so few are available to represent more conservative views on Christianity. If you meet one send that person here.

I would say your hand waiving. I would say you have closed your eyes and ears to the things of God and feel more at home now with those who deny God. This should be a wake up call to you as a "christian" IMO. Only sharing this with all honesty and respect. You do know I am telling you the truth right (please see PROVERBS 13:20 then read PROVERBS 14:1 seriously please prayerfully read these scriptures) :)
 

3rdAngel

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I do understand. You were the one that made the error of cherry picking only the words that you wanted to see in your sources, And you even chose some of the words that applied to you. You have stated falsehoods. If you look up the definition of a falsehood it is simply a claim that is untrue. That is not a statement that you lied, many of your sources specifically used the term "falsehood" I am not sure if any said "lie" if so there were rather few.

Then prove it. All I am hearing are empty claims you cannot prove. :)
 

3rdAngel

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Nope, that post refuted your claims. You simply could not understand it. I told you that I would help you to understand if you could discuss properly. Are you ready to see how you screwed the pooch there?

Ok if your telling the truth post the link. This should be fun :)
 

Subduction Zone

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Then prove it. All I am hearing are claims you cannot prove. :)
I offered to discuss items with you if you brought up your claims one at a time. I am not chasing down old posts and discussing your past errors with you. You have been corrected time and time again by everybody here. If you don't understand you can ask questions properly and politely. You are in no position to make any demands of others.
 

3rdAngel

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I offered to discuss items with you if you brought up your claims one at a time. I am not chasing down old posts and discussing your past errors with you. You have been corrected time and time again by everybody here. If you don't understand you can ask questions properly and politely. You are in no position to make any demands of others.

Prove it. if you cannot why make claims that are not true? That is simply being dishonest. :)
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
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The teachings of Christ are to tell the truth.
You can print the words, but I am not convinced you embrace them. Your personal views and interpretations are limited as representative of the truth.

You have yet to address any post I have made that clearly defined the difference between conclusions drawn on evidence compared to conclusions based on faith. From what I see here and have seen elsewhere, you would rather pick fights than actually engage in debate and discusdion. You would rather declare others heretics and false than gain understanding.

You have posted a lot, but I recall no compelling argument explaining and demonstrating your claims. So far, your claim of the basis of atheism has failed as miserably as your claims about evolution and your ability to know the true heart of others.

I really don't have much else to say on the OP. I suspect you will repeat what you have already posted and I see no reason to wade through repetition.

That is the truth.
 

Subduction Zone

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I would say your hand waiving. I would say you have closed your eyes and ears to the things of God and feel more at home now with those who deny God. This should be a wake up call to you as a "christian" IMO. Only sharing this with all honesty and respect. You do know I am telling you the truth right (please see PROVERBS 13:20 then read PROVERBS 14:1 seriously please prayerfully read these scriptures) :)
Now, now. What were you told about accusing others of your sins?

One thing that you should realize as a Christian is that the Bible never claims to be inerrant. Or to even be the word of God. One has to add context to verses that are not justified to make that claim.
 

3rdAngel

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You can print the words, but I am not convinced you embrace them. Your personal views and interpretations are limited as representative of the truth.

You have yet to address any post I have made that clearly defined the difference between conclusions drawn on evidence compared to conclusions based on faith. From what I see here and have seen elsewhere, you would rather pick fights than actually engage in debate and discusdion. You would rather declare others heretics and false than gain understanding.

You have posted a lot, but I recall no compelling argument explaining and demonstrating your claims. So far, your claim of the basis of atheism has failed as miserably as your claims about evolution and your ability to know the true heart of others.

I really don't have much else to say on the OP. I suspect you will repeat what you have already posted and I see no reason to wade through repetition.

That is the truth.

I am posting this again because I think you missed it and it is also directly relevant to this post of yours. I would say your hand waiving. I would say you have closed your eyes and ears to the things of God and feel more at home now with those who deny God. This should be a wake up call to you as a "christian" IMO. Only sharing this with all honesty and respect. You do know I am telling you the truth right (please see PROVERBS 13:20 then read PROVERBS 14:1 seriously please prayerfully read these scriptures). If I did not embrace God's Word I would not be here sharing them. Denying God's Word will that is something those who profess Christ should seriously and prayerfully think about IMO.
 
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Subduction Zone

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There you go. Thanks for proving my point :)

No, I only proved that you will not and probably cannot debate properly. I have made a more than reasonable offer to you. You are in no position to make any demands of anyone. It does not work that way. When countless people have pointed out your errors and you refuse to learn you can no longer demand that someone provide a post that you did not understand the first time around. I am willing to break down what you do not understand.
 

3rdAngel

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Now, now. What were you told about accusing others of your sins?
One thing that you should realize as a Christian is that the Bible never claims to be inerrant. Or to even be the word of God. One has to add context to verses that are not justified to make that claim.

Sorry did you say something? Did you want to prove your claims you have made now or latter? Waiting.... It is ok I know they will never come because they do not exist. Just be honest :)
 

3rdAngel

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No, I only proved that you will not and probably cannot debate properly. I have made a more than reasonable offer to you. You are in no position to make any demands of anyone. It does not work that way. When countless people have pointed out your errors and you refuse to learn you can no longer demand that someone provide a post that you did not understand the first time around. I am willing to break down what you do not understand.

I only asked you to prove your claims. If you cannot or you do not want to just say so. You and I both know the claims you made earlier do not exist and if they do not why pretend that then do?
 

Subduction Zone

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I am posting this again because I think you missed it and it is also directly relevant to this post of yours. I would say your hand waiving. I would say you have closed your eyes and ears to the things of God and feel more at home now with those who deny God. This should be a wake up call to you as a "christian" IMO. Only sharing this with all honesty and respect. You do know I am telling you the truth right (please see PROVERBS 13:20 then read PROVERBS 14:1 seriously please prayerfully read these scriptures)


You do realize that those verse say that people like you should be avoided. Why do you constantly shoot yourself in the foot with sources that you do not understand?
 

Subduction Zone

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No you didn't :)
Yes, I did. I offered to go over the points that you did not understand one at a time. That is as good as it gets. You don't get to demand how it is done. And since you broke the Ninth one time too many you are in timeout for at least an hour again.
 
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