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Those who believe there is no God live by faith

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Ayjaydee

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And why is that Ayjay? I ask you simple question to your claims and your unable to answer them. Why because you cannot prove them. If you can prove your claims then prove them if you cannot why pretend you can and seek to make fun of people? This is only a distraction because you know I am telling you the truth but you are unwilling to hear it :)
well you ask them flat out or just peruse their posts about you like I did!! Lol
 

3rdAngel

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And back to the beginning of the circle....
Do you have anything else, or is that it ?

Well this is what the OP is about. If you cannot prove that there is no God or that God does not exist then your belief is one that is simply based on faith. If you disagree your welcome to try and prove me wrong. Most people simply give up and start calling me names. Some are interested in a discussion though which is good. Which one are you? :)
 

Polymath257

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Trouble is no one I know believes in your list above neither have they made a religion out of them, unlike 1/3 of the current worlds population who are a collective witness to God that claim they have all had an individual experience with God.

You really think that everyone who calls themselves a Christian has such an experience?

From what I have seen, the vast majority of people who call themselves Christian *hope* to have such an experience, but never actually do.

And even among Christians that *have* had such experiences, they certainly do NOT all agree.

Do you have any evidence comparing the number of such religious experiences among Christains and, say, Moslems?
 

3rdAngel

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You really think that everyone who calls themselves a Christian has such an experience? From what I have seen, the vast majority of people who call themselves Christian *hope* to have such an experience, but never actually do. Do you have any evidence comparing the number of such religious experiences among Christains and, say, Moslems?

Hello Poly I am behind on posting hope to catch up more afer I get some rest. No not everoyne that calls themselve are really Christian. Only those who God has revealed himself to and believe and follow his Word according to the scriptures are "christian". Those who have had the experience do indeed all agree. Your mixing up interpretation of some doctrines with those having an experience with God.
 

Ayjaydee

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You really think that everyone who calls themselves a Christian has such an experience?

From what I have seen, the vast majority of people who call themselves Christian *hope* to have such an experience, but never actually do.

And even among Christians that *have* had such experiences, they certainly do NOT all agree.

Do you have any evidence comparing the number of such religious experiences among Christains and, say, Moslems?
Apparently it's up to you to pr[ve they dont
 

Ayjaydee

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Hello Poly I am behind on posting hope to catch up more afer I get some rest. No not everoyne that calls themselve are really Christian. Only those who God has revealed himself to and believe and follow his Word according to the scriptures are "christian". Those who have had the experience do indeed all agree. Your mixing up interpretation of doctrine with those having an experience with God.
Links to your interviews with them all??
 

Polymath257

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Well this is what the OP is about. If you cannot prove that there is no God or that God does not exist then your belief is one that is simply based on faith. If you disagree your welcome to try and prove me wrong. Most people simply give up and start calling me names. Some are interested in a discussion though which is good. Which one are you? :)

The main mistake in the OP is confusing a lack of belief in God and an active disbelief in God. The two are NOT the same.

When there is a lack of evidence, whithholding belief one way or the other is the reasonable position. And that means a lack of belief either way.

Furthermore, the burden of proof is *always* on the positive existence claim. That theology so commonly wants to violate that basic principle just shows how desperate it is to validate its position.
 

3rdAngel

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The main mistake in the OP is confusing a lack of belief in God and an active disbelief in God. The two are NOT the same.

When there is a lack of evidence, whithholding belief one way or the other is the reasonable position. And that means a lack of belief either way.

Furthermore, the burden of proof is *always* on the positive existence claim. That theology so commonly wants to violate that basic principle just shows how desperate it is to validate its position.

No this is a bogus argument. It has already been addressed in detail in post # 669 linked in some detail already. You should have a read and if you disagree please tell me why? Burden of proof IMP goes two ways on those who hold different beliefs who are trying to support their claims for or against. This has already been discussed with you further back.
 

Polymath257

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Hello Poly I am behind on posting hope to catch up more afer I get some rest. No not everoyne that calls themselve are really Christian. Only those who God has revealed himself to and believe and follow his Word according to the scriptures are "christian". Those who have had the experience do indeed all agree. Your mixing up interpretation of some doctrines with those having an experience with God.

Well, you are supporting my point. Of the 1/3 of the world's population that calls itselv Christian, how many have had the experiences you claim?

Of those who have had such experiences, how many actually agree?

It seems to me that, more and more, you are excluding a lot of 'God experiences' and a lot of God believers to justify that the ones you agree with are valid. But the very act of doing that undermines your argument that 1/3 of the world agrees with you.
 
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