I agree it is telling about who they are, but it always comes from a place of caring and love, don't cha know!:slap:
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Tired of being called a sinner?
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Thanks Luna, I usually weather it a lot better than today. Thanks to everyone that responded. I am back in perspective again and that's good. Thanks.
Azakel
Liebe ist für alle da
Thanks Azakel,
Allfather
Troublemaker from Ulster
It doesn't bother me at all. I find it quite comical. And I'm sure in their mind, as hurtful and condescending as it may be, they are doing you a service and assuring your place in heaven. Sometimes I find it sad that they are trying so hard to do what they think is right, so I don't even mind it that much.
Yes and that is exactly how I should view it too. Some days it's just easier than others. They can be so earnest!
Since everyone makes mistakes, I'm rather disappointed in them for stating the obvious.
Thing is, while I do agree with the philosophy, I view it differently from them; Ryu from Street Fighter said it well: "A defeat learned from is better than an empty victory."
Thing is, while I do agree with the philosophy, I view it differently from them; Ryu from Street Fighter said it well: "A defeat learned from is better than an empty victory."
Allfather
Troublemaker from Ulster
The hardest time I had with this was when it was brought up by family members. I had an Aunt and Uncle that told me I was "from the pit of hell and smelled like smoke", and this was still when I was young and considered myself a Christian. It was mostly because of my music choices, since I love me some metal
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I simply told my Uncle that I would take intelligence over ignorance any day. I figured if a music choice won you a ticket to heaven then obviously the system was flawed.
The thing is they are so scared. I'm not sure they see it that way, but it seems so clear to an outsider. And the truth is they are scared for me. Hell is so real for them. But yes, I agree with you the system is flawed and that was evident to me many years ago too.
Allfather
Troublemaker from Ulster
I think they are also scared because they feel like they should believe something that doesn't make sense, and they are brought up with so many negative consequences to not believing, it is virtually tearing their soul in two.
There are two types of Christians in my viewpoint:
1) Those who struggle with what they believe, do not deviate, and lash out at those who believe something else (or possibly lash out at those who are liberated while they cannot achieve such)
2) Those who struggle with what they believe, make it work for themselves through study and meditation, and are content with everyone else's viewpoint.
There is no question with whom we are speaking about in this thread. I would never expect this type of criticism from #2, and some of my most respected friends and colleagues fall in this category. Christian #1 is either uncomfortable with their own religion or scared of subversion by another.
I liken it to a Homophobe being the one who is actually uncomfortable with their own sexuality. If they were comfortable being straight, then there would be no need to demean or ridicule those who are not.
Those are very good points. I also know many religious people that are perfectly fine with other beliefs. I think a majority of people I know are. It is just this birth family I have found. I would agree with you about not being sure. It seems that way sometimes. It's like I threaten their security in some way though I try hard to not question there beliefs. Just existing seems to be enough to make my one sister very uncomfortable. So I think you have hit the nail on the head.
Alceste
Vagabond
I grew up in Calgary. It seems to me, only because I never ran into a true-blue foaming-at-the-mouth fundamentalist until I was in my mid-20s, that it's a recent infestation, contracted via Alberta's ideological and economic proximity to the US. Growing up, most of the religious people I knew were either good, old-fashioned United Church of Canada folk or Mormons. I did have one friend from Trinidad whose parents were Pentacostal...
To be honest, I don't know the distribution. I only got the impression Alberta is teeming with them because I had the bad luck to date a couple when I went back for a while. Honestly, they ought to wear arm-bands or something so they can be spotted early on, before you wake up "the morning after" and they're off cringing in a corner in their shorts, fending you off with a cross held aloft.
Comicaze247
See the previous line
Lucky for me, I don't have much family that are like that, and I haven't met many people like that either.
Sure, my parents don't like that I'm not Catholic anymore, but they know I'm a good person, so they're fine with it.
But I have been called a sinner by the occasional Christian Fundamentalist groups (I like to call them "sign people") that like to come on college campuses pointing at random people and saying "SINNER!" I used to try to argue with them, but then I realized it was like talking to a wall with the word "sinner" graffiti'd onto it. It's pointless. So instead, I just mess with them now. One of my friends Rick-Rolled a group before. Next time, I'm thinking of dressing up as a demon and just standing next to them.
Sure, my parents don't like that I'm not Catholic anymore, but they know I'm a good person, so they're fine with it.
But I have been called a sinner by the occasional Christian Fundamentalist groups (I like to call them "sign people") that like to come on college campuses pointing at random people and saying "SINNER!" I used to try to argue with them, but then I realized it was like talking to a wall with the word "sinner" graffiti'd onto it. It's pointless. So instead, I just mess with them now. One of my friends Rick-Rolled a group before. Next time, I'm thinking of dressing up as a demon and just standing next to them.
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
I thought "God" was supposed to be the judge of things? Who are these people to think they can judge you and your beliefs?
Comicaze247
See the previous line
I think you will find them in the encyclopedia under "annoying"
Charity
Let's go racing boys !
My sins are ever before me, chocolate, diet coke, sex and etc. I get up and pent out all my frustrations early in the morning while sinning with my first diet coke for the day. Then later on I repent as I reach for more sinful chocolate....All the time telling myself what a sinner I am........
Why does sin have to be sooooo good??
Why does sin have to be sooooo good??
Comicaze247
See the previous line
Because it's being human: being true to ourselves.
I realized in my late teens that I don't want to be a part of a group that says "If it feels good at all, don't do it, even if it's healthy."
EDIT: I just realized I said that as if that was a long time ago, lol
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