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To Hebrew experts: did Eve sleep with the Serpent?
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susanblange
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My dictionary says Adam means this: 1) "of the ground". 2) "taken out of the red earth". It also is taken to mean "man" or "mankind". I don't think we will be able to agree. I trust the KJV and so does God. It is remarkably accurate and you won't be able to convince me otherwise. It is consistent and it may have been influenced by the Illuminati.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Can you provide evidence to support this claim?
Is that why Jewish, Biblical, Greek, and Hebrew scholars widely disagree?
susanblange
Active Member
Satan the serpent is also called "...the dragon that is in the sea". Isaiah 27:1. The entrance to Hell is also a sea with very rough, dark waters.
Muffled
Jesus in me
The races are very mixed down through the ages. I am wolf on my fathers side. I have the big nose but missed the black hair. I am dwarf on my mothers side. I was blonde as a youth. My mother was blonde and short. I didn't get any of the Atlantean. I am medium height. I have a claim to clan Murray. My wife was Atlantean 5'8 tall for a woman, Edmundson clan. She had the blonde hair of a dwarf and the pointy nose of an elf.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I'll just stick with Celtic-Gaelic-Nordic.
stvdv
Veteran Member
She never "saw" Adams penis maybe, when in Paradise. Not a big leap to call it a snake
susanblange
Active Member
The authority of the KJV is secret Biblical prophecy. It may have been handed down in the oral tradition. The Bible is not difficult to understand. Proverbs 9:10. "...and the knowledge of the holy is understanding". Some things have a dual fulfillment. God is the final authority on the scriptures because he wrote, and/or inspired them. I am a Fundamentalist and I take the scriptures at their plain, literal meaning. There is only one interpretation, and that is God's.
rosends
Well-Known Member
What is the bibliographical info for that dictionary? In Hebrew, the words "min ha'adama" mean "from the ground" (as in Gen 1:9). THE man is "Ha'adam" and "man" is "adam". The Hebrew is remarkably more accurate and you won't convince me otherwise.
rosends
Well-Known Member
You are now bringing in the word "tanin" not nachash, and interjecting "Satan" who is not in the verse.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Well, at least you're not claiming you have to be a believer to understand. But you didn't actually provide evidence to support your claim. There are numerous translations of the Bibles, including efforts to improve the translation quality, because the KJV really isn't that good. It's like the translators had a couple years of Greek and Hebrew at Uni.
Terry Sampson
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rosends
Well-Known Member
From Sefaria, you should read the entire radak there
Genesis 3:1
and look at the gemara on Sotah 9b Sotah 9b
Muffled
Jesus in me
MyHeritage says I have Scandinavian, English, Irish/Scottish/Welsh, Iberian Baltic Finnish, and Jewish. It probably is based on what DNA people have in those areas rather on actual racial characteristics.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe it is a long stretch to think serpents look like camels.
so was the man a soothsayer? a prophet?
serpent = nachash, a noun, is derived from nachash, a verb; which means soothsaying, divining, learning by experiencing.
bascially a man, a seer, a prophet.
Symbolism of the Serpent
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Thank you very much.
Very useful observation.
Terry Sampson
Well-Known Member
Do you have source for the statement that the noun, nachash meaning serpent, is derived from a verb, nachash, which means soothsaying, divining, learning by experiencing?
rosends
Well-Known Member
Ernest Klein's dictionary doesn't connect the two
https://www.sefaria.org/Klein_Dictionary,_נחשׁ?ven=Carta_Jerusalem;_1st_edition,_1987&lang=bi
even though logically, the slyness of the serpent and the dishonesty of a sorcerer seem connected.
https://www.sefaria.org/Klein_Dictionary,_נחשׁ?ven=Carta_Jerusalem;_1st_edition,_1987&lang=bi
even though logically, the slyness of the serpent and the dishonesty of a sorcerer seem connected.