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To The Anti Gay Religious
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dgirl1986
Big Queer Chesticles!
Majikthise
nude
I hope you can find the time to respond to my post to you
I'll go back and read. I'm still at work.
No problem.
Having kids is definitely hard work. Mine are still young so I can only imagine all the hard work and sacrifice you've done.
You seem to have good and bad experiences, definitely much more than me.
I actually don't know any openly gay folks. My family and I believe that one of my uncles is gay. He acts very feminine and is still not married. To me, he's very nice and I just see him as my uncle. Our family is still very conservative as we are first generation immigrants but I think his immediate family simply looks the other way "for" him. It's not ideal but it's a compromise in way. He's actually done so much for them. He was the first to immigrate here and is the most successful of his bunch. He sponsored all his relatives and they basically lived with him until they were ready to move out and be indepedent. I suspect one of my very close immediate relative to be bisexual. Nothing more on that though. I don't know anything about their sex lives, but then I don't of other peoples' sex lives in general.
Thanks for sharing that.
I'm 39 and use the internet to be preoccupied. It's great source for random stuff. Sometimes, way too random.
Majikthise
nude
I have habit of being very sarcastic and saying whatever comes to mind. I'm like this with my friends but it doesn't always translate well on the internet.
I'm not being this way because I think i can hide behind the video screen, it's just how I really am.
You're right on about the randomness. Sometimes I'm doing three things at once and posting as well.
Majikthise
nude
I hope you can find the time to respond to my post to you
I've already outlined my personal experiences with individuals of differing sexual orientations, and read your post to me. So here's a quick statement of my opinions on marriage and parenting.
I'm adamant on marriage. It's between a man and woman biologically, traditionally , emotionally and ideally. Changing the definition to include other combinations will set a precedent that will allow far more deviant and some dangerous unions.
Many scoff at this line of reasoning but i have yet to meet anyone of an alternative sexual persuasion that would oppose those unions.
"I don't care if someone marries a (place being or object of your choice here)."......Is not an answer that curbs ones concerns.
I comment on parenting shortly. Gotta run.
Triumphant_Loser
Libertarian Egalitarian
Here are several sites that suggests little causality between sexual abuse and homosexuality. Is it conclusive? I don't know. Just passing it along.
The problem with the believe that abuse causes homosexuality
A major study of child abuse and homosexuality revisited
The problem with the believe that abuse causes homosexuality
A major study of child abuse and homosexuality revisited
Source?
Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
The above was a response to the statement below by Apple Sugar..... couldn't figure out how to quote multiple posts (lazy).....
"Many who identify as gay, when they go back into their past experiences in their formative years, find they had horrific traumatic experiences with same sex or opposite sex adults."
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I don't know any statistics -and perhaps that can be a factor, but.....
why aren't positive or more positive experiences considered more often?
(Apart from what may or not be in someone's brain composition or whatever)
Why can't having experiences (not necessarily sexual, but relating in some way to sexuality) they liked -or found more favorable -be a factor?
Not trying to be for or against anything here -just thinking.
Triumphant_Loser
Libertarian Egalitarian
Once again, I grew up in an average, middle-class, non-abusive household with two loving parents, and I'm still bi. The most horrific experience I had was getting spooked by the guy in the Mickey costume at our family trip to Disney World. (Maybe that was the "horrific" experience that "turned" me bi.:sarcastic)
Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
Within any sexual orientation, there are factors which cause people to be attracted to -or averse to -individuals and overall situations. Those factors can be within our own minds/psyche -or external. They can affect how we perceive and react to what is within others or what is external to them.
We all have a different general "whole package" which would be most favorable and desirable for us -for many reasons.
Some are picky and fussy for whatever reason -some are not.
Some would just be fine with getting some kind of package.
Some points are deal-breakers -some are not.
Some appreciate, desire or enjoy very specific things -some many possible things.
Some avoid perfectly fine people and situations for various reasons.
Some are drawn to harmful people and situations for various reasons.
Some have beliefs they consciously chose, some have beliefs they didn't.
Some realize how those beliefs affect them and their attractions -some do not.
Some deny their actual thoughts and desires to fit in.
Some have fit in before their actual thoughts and desires had a chance to exist.
Hey -this is kinda nice -must be good -how can it be wrong?
Hey -doesn't matter what's nice in a certain way -I'm going to do what's nice in what I believe to be the right way.
Some choose beliefs that actually affect their thoughts and attractions.
Some believe that is not possible and that others only believe it is.
Some believe some thoughts and attractions can't be affected.
Some believe they could if those others believed they could
People don't always agree with what others believe about themselves.
Who's right and wrong doesn't necessarily matter because it just ain't happening.
Doesn't matter how awesome you are in any and every way, we just ain't happening.
Those sorts of things can also apply to -at the very least - whether or not we act in a heterosexual/homosexual/bisexual/whatever other kind of sexual way there is -or even prefer such over another...... whether or not one believes a person can be born one way or another. There are perhaps an infinite number of factors which result in behaviors.
We all have a different general "whole package" which would be most favorable and desirable for us -for many reasons.
Some are picky and fussy for whatever reason -some are not.
Some would just be fine with getting some kind of package.
Some points are deal-breakers -some are not.
Some appreciate, desire or enjoy very specific things -some many possible things.
Some avoid perfectly fine people and situations for various reasons.
Some are drawn to harmful people and situations for various reasons.
Some have beliefs they consciously chose, some have beliefs they didn't.
Some realize how those beliefs affect them and their attractions -some do not.
Some deny their actual thoughts and desires to fit in.
Some have fit in before their actual thoughts and desires had a chance to exist.
Hey -this is kinda nice -must be good -how can it be wrong?
Hey -doesn't matter what's nice in a certain way -I'm going to do what's nice in what I believe to be the right way.
Some choose beliefs that actually affect their thoughts and attractions.
Some believe that is not possible and that others only believe it is.
Some believe some thoughts and attractions can't be affected.
Some believe they could if those others believed they could
People don't always agree with what others believe about themselves.
Who's right and wrong doesn't necessarily matter because it just ain't happening.
Doesn't matter how awesome you are in any and every way, we just ain't happening.
Those sorts of things can also apply to -at the very least - whether or not we act in a heterosexual/homosexual/bisexual/whatever other kind of sexual way there is -or even prefer such over another...... whether or not one believes a person can be born one way or another. There are perhaps an infinite number of factors which result in behaviors.
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Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
Sorry, I'm still not sure what to draw from this.
Ahhh...the excessive normalcy factor. That's what it was.
I read it as he's stating one specific situation and that being bi was not due to abuse in his case.
Is that true in all cases, I don't know...
Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
I was going for humor.
Triumphant_Loser
Libertarian Egalitarian
Triumphant_Loser
Libertarian Egalitarian
I was saying that for me there was no correlation between my sexuality and abuse, because I was never abused or suffered any traumatic sexual experiences.
Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
I don't feel a great need to attempt draw things from stuff -at least not immediately.
When I read things people write -or as I go about my day and life -I just draw stuff in as accurately as possible.
I try not to try to sort it all out then and there. I give it time to bounce around in whatever process might be happening up in my brain.
(It's kinda weird to think that you don't always know what you're thinking)
Then I draw from whatever it is my brain did with it later -then may actively and consciously process it.
When I write something like the above, it's not necessarily a conclusion or some absolute point every time -just some information another may or may not allow into their brain.
.....and stuff
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