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Transgenders

Rhynni

Member
Do you know any trangenders? If so, thoughts on them. How has there personality changed since "coming out"? Were they accepted rejected or anywhere in between?

If not, what do you know about transgenders and how do you view them?

All ideas and thoughts welcome, positive or negative.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I don't know if I know any in person (ie, the real world).
Here there are several. What I notice is how little I notice it.
But, holy cow! What a difficult road that must be for them.

How's that for a lame response?
 

Rhynni

Member
Taking your life into your own hands huh? I just want to kno how others deal with loved ones making this decision
 

Shuddhasattva

Well-Known Member
It will be interesting to me to see if bio-nanotechnology can affect true gender changes (XX <-> XY), and what this will do for families and society in general.

How would we feel about gender if it could be easily changed and rechanged?
 

Musty

Active Member
I'm not aware of any (maybe one) but it's not something that bothers me. I prefer to accept people as they are and if they feel happier as transgender then so be it.
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
One online.

I fully supported (and still fully support) her decision. I'm okay with them.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Do you know any trangenders?

Yes, at least a couple. It is a very difficult thing for one to be.


If so, thoughts on them. How has there personality changed since "coming out"? Were they accepted rejected or anywhere in between?

The eldest was an adult and pretty much was "in between",although I have no doubt that coming out was good for her.

The youngest was a 14-years old FTM that found himself forbidden from fully coming out, much to his frustration. However, he has grave emotional issues due to very poor parenting as well. His personality is very confrontational, manipulative, aggressive, territorial and abrasive.


If not, what do you know about transgenders and how do you view them?

We quite simply ought to demistify the matter and fully accept them for what and who they are. It is way too cruel not to do that... and it helps their emotional state and moral character none.
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
Do you know any trangenders? If so, thoughts on them. How has there personality changed since "coming out"? Were they accepted rejected or anywhere in between?
I know two, and like most forms of "coming out", they were originally met with negativity but now are accepted fully.
 

methylatedghosts

Can't brain. Has dumb.
From the Trans people I know, it seems to me that transition it's easier the earlier it's begun. Not just from the physical, physiological point of view, but also in terms of acceptance by others. It seems that the younger a person is upon coming out add Trans, the more easily it is accepted by peers. It's almost as though there's a belief that by, say, 25 years old you should know who you are, and you should by then be comfortable in your own skin, and to come out as Trans after then is a betrayal to who you are - from the perspective of others . That others would feel betrayed by you in that they thought they knew who you were, but suddenly that's all changed even though you might have felt this way your whole life. Also, it seems to me that the vast majority out Trans people are mtf, rather than ftm. I wonder if this is because tomboyish girls are more acceptable in society than girly guys
 

Rhynni

Member
i understand how scary it must be. But do you think that when they do they feel like they have to start over? I mean leave their home and go where no one knows them
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Do you know any trangenders? If so, thoughts on them. How has there personality changed since "coming out"? Were they accepted rejected or anywhere in between?

If not, what do you know about transgenders and how do you view them?

All ideas and thoughts welcome, positive or negative.
I am transsexual. And while I'm not out to very many people IRL, the few people that know it has been a positive thing. But the people who know as of now I knew would be the ones who would not have an issue with it. But everyone else, including family, is next and coming up soon. And my mom I am not looking forward to because she worked with a transwoman some time ago and my mom had some very mean, hateful, and nasty things to say about her. My brother and dad are both homophobic. My sister and her oldest daughter though I can see not having that big of a deal with it, and getting over it the quickest.
As for my personality, it has changed alot. But it's less and less of an act to try to seem to be someone I am not and more and more of who I actually am.
If you have any more questions, feel free to ask.

It will be interesting to me to see if bio-nanotechnology can affect true gender changes (XX <-> XY), and what this will do for families and society in general.
I have my doubts they ever actually pursue something like that, and if it happens it will likely be a by-product of research into something else. The reason I think this is because there are very many alternatives to XX/XY, and the effects of many of them would not be changeable by altering chromosomes. One such example would be women who are born with XY chromosomes, and have testicles instead of ovaries. Turning the Y into an X would really not change anything about them. As for hormone therapy and surgeries related to transitioning from one sex to the other, they wouldn't be enhanced or changed by changing the chromosomes so I just really don't see the ability to change sex chromosomes ever being a major research project.

i understand how scary it must be. But do you think that when they do they feel like they have to start over? I mean leave their home and go where no one knows them
Some transpeople do just that; leave without telling anyone where they went to start a new life. It is even passed around as a possible option on some trans-related web forums. Myself though I do plan on starting a new life away from here when I move to start at a university, but I don't see it as starting over because it's really nothing more than a new location and new people.
 
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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
you would leave your daughters?
I do not have any children. But even if I did, the only reason I would leave them would be if I feared for their safety, in which that case they would be going to live with my parents so I really wouldn't be leaving them.
 

Rhynni

Member
your sisters daughter. my bad.
I have this friend. and her dad is becoming a woman. and she (the father) moved to a different city and completely left her family. and my friend is just like torn to pieces. she feels abandoned
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
your sisters daughter. my bad.
Actually with the life I'm planning I won't be staying where I'm at for much longer anyways. For one I am going to school to be an anthropologist, so there will be the potential I will be gone for several months, possibly longer than a year, at a time. I plan on living and working in Japan for a few years as well. So regardless if things go my way I am constantly going to be on the go anyways with an academic career. But another reason for relocating is to move to somewhere that is more friendly towards transsexuals. Not many places are actually that good, and even the better places like Thailand are no paradise, there are at least some places that have anti-discrimination laws in practice. Where I live now it is fully legal to fire someone from their job just because they are transsexual.
I have this friend. and her dad is becoming a woman. and she (the father) moved to a different city and completely left her family. and my friend is just like torn to pieces. she feels abandoned
That unfortunately does happen many times because the individual feels that those close to them will not be able to take the news, and may turn hostile and/or violent towards them. It's sad that it happens, but it is a strong indication of broken lines of communication within a family. Sometimes it is a necessity though, especially for teens who often take to the streets than endure with the mental and physical abuse of their parents.
My family is very loosely knit, but one thing I couldn't put any of them through is not knowing what happened to me. It would be especially hard on my mom, harder so than hearing something she really isn't going to like. Out of everyone, it will probably be my brother that will have the hardest time dealing with it, if he even ever comes to accept it.
 

Wherenextcolumbus

Well-Known Member
@shadow wolf, if you don't mind me asking, have you transitioned at all or do you strictly have to hide your identity from your family?
 
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