Transgenders

[We Never Know]

It's because you known you wouldn't like it someone casually asked you about your genitals. It's because you know you would be shamed out of the room for asking such a thing in any other situation. And you'd probably understand you had it coming if you get slapped over so casually ask a woman in anything situation about her genitals.

If they are a woman, I would know.
If they are a trans, I wouldn't know.

 

[SomeRandom]

If they are a woman, I would know.
If they are a trans, I wouldn't know.

I wouldn't be so sure.
There’s this thing called “passing.”
Not sure how well received that term is in the trans community. But other minorities know the phenomenon all too well. For better or worse
So unless you’re asking random peeps in the street, I don’t think you’d know which is which. At least not all the time.
So would you be asking such a thing to folks? Or would you think it’s a private matter?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

If they are a woman, I would know.

You don't know as well as you think you do. And that's before trans people are added.

 

[We Never Know]

If they are a woman,

I wouldn't be so sure.
There’s this thing called “passing.”
Not sure how well received that term is in the trans community. But other minorities know the phenomenon all too well. For better or worse
So unless you’re asking random peeps in the street, I don’t think you’d know which is which. At least not all the time.
So would you be asking such a thing to folks? Or would you think it’s a private matter?

I did say woman. Not transwoman or transfemale.

 

[SomeRandom]

If they are a woman,


I did say woman. Not transwoman or transfemale.

Again having worked with the public for a number of years, that’s not always “clear” if you get me? Lol
I know I’ve had to bite my tongue because I didn’t know whether to say ma’am or sir to someone
I’m just saying, do you ask peeps about their genitals?
I get that you were merely curious. That’s fine.
But some questions are just too loaded. Not your fault. Just is what it is

 

[We Never Know]

Again having worked with the public for a number of years, that’s not always “clear” if you get me? Lol
I know I’ve had to bite my tongue because I didn’t know whether to say ma’am or sir to someone

I get ya. I have met some women that grow a better mustache than me.

And to be clear here, when I say woman or female, man or male. I am referring to what you refer to as "cis". Otherwise I will say women or female, man or male with "trans" attached.

 

[VoidCat]

If they are a woman,


I did say woman. Not transwoman or transfemale.

This is me a nonbinary person whose been mistaken for both a man and woman...youtube sometimes sends the wrong link with shorts but you know it is the correct one if its titled I can do both and you see me in different outfits
https://youtube.com/shorts/EkTxtjbCTWI?feature=share

Its not always possible to tell what a person is assigned at birth

 

[We Never Know]

Again having worked with the public for a number of years, that’s not always “clear” if you get me? Lol
I know I’ve had to bite my tongue because I didn’t know whether to say ma’am or sir to someone
I’m just saying, do you ask peeps about their genitals?
I get that you were merely curious. That’s fine.
But some questions are just too loaded. Not your fault. Just is what it is

I'm not going to go crocodile dundee on them

 

[SomeRandom]

I get ya. I have met some women that grow a better mustache than me.

Lol I have served many a woman with a full beard. Not even joking.
Shouldn’t laugh I know but….wow!!!

And to be clear here, when I say woman or female, man or male. I am referring to what you refer to as "cis". Otherwise I will say women or female, man or male with "trans" attached.

Fair enough.
I ask you to try to understand that sometimes minorities will have their backs against the wall from the getgo.
It can be discouraging. But sometimes folks just get too exhausted from the questions or even the discrimination to be open to frank dialog. You know? Folks sometimes ask questions, pretending to being curious and just use it to spit in the face of minorities. I’ve had it happen to me many times. Sad to say. (Not accusing you of doing that. I’m just saying. It happens a lot in general.)
Just try to be patient. Please???

 

[We Never Know]

Lol I have served many a woman with a full beard. Not even joking.
Shouldn’t laugh I know but….wow!!!

Fair enough.
I ask you to try to understand that sometimes minorities will have their backs against the wall from the getgo.
It can be discouraging. But sometimes folks just get too exhausted from the questions or even the discrimination to be open to frank dialog. You know? Folks sometimes ask questions, pretending to being curious and just use it to spit in the face of minorities. I’ve had it happen to me many times. Sad to say. (Not accusing you of doing that. I’m just saying. It happens a lot in general.)
Just try to be patient. Please???

One also has to keep in mind this is an anonymous forum. Its not like I know or well see anyone here.

In my years I've learned that most people who talk about others, belittle others, complain, whine, attack, want to be center of attention, etc. the most are the people who aren't happy with life or theirself or both.

As the ole adage goes, misery loves company.

I was born a male, identified male, stayed a male, therefore I am a male. No cis prefix needed.

In my opinion if any male differs from that, that's where the prefix is needed.

I don't need a straight flag, a straight parade, a straight pride day, or etc.
I am just me. I am happy with me and my life. Maybe I am just lucky.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

One also has to keep in mind this is an anonymous forum. Its not like I know or well see anyone here.

In my years I've learned that people who talk about others, belittle others, complain, whine, attack, want to be center of attention, etc. the most are the people who aren't happy with life or theirself or both.

As the ole adage goes, misery loves company.

I was born a male, identified male, stayed a male, therefore I am a male. No cis prefix needed.

In my opinion if any male differs from that, that's where the prefix is needed.

I don't need a straight flag, a straight parade, a straight pride day, or etc.
I am just me. I am happy with me and my life. Maybe I am just lucky.

I don't think of 'cis' as anything more than the functional equivalent of 'hetero'. Calling me 'ciswoman' evokes no stronger feeling in me than being called 'heterosexual.' I'm not trans, therefore cis.

 

[We Never Know]

I don't think of 'cis' as anything more than the functional equivalent of 'hetero'. Calling me 'ciswoman' evokes no stronger feeling in me than being called 'heterosexual.' I'm not trans, therefore cis.

It doesn't bother as I worry about it.
I take as "they/I" have a prefix label so you need one to

 

[SomeRandom]

One also has to keep in mind this is an anonymous forum. Its not like I know or well see anyone here.

In my years I've learned that people who talk about others, belittle others, complain, whine, attack, want to be center of attention, etc. the most are the people who aren't happy with life or theirself or both.

I have to agree. Remember though that folks, even on Anonymous forums, may carry their own trauma.
I certainly have a lot of baggage. I try my best to hold back but I can sometimes lash out. Not proud of that, but I’m only human, right?

As the ole adage goes, misery loves company.

Misery loves bourbon in my experience

I was born a male, identified male, stayed a male, therefore I am a male. No cis prefix needed.

I’m a woman, born and bred. Though I’ll admit to having some very “masculine” interests. But I don’t have gender dysphoria. Maybe I fall somewhere on the gender spectrum if I was properly analysed, I dunno.
But in terms of Aussie culture I’m just a typical run of the mill tomboy. I accept that and I’m happy
For others their identity can be something born of trauma. Just because you and I have an idyllic life, so to speak, doesn’t mean others necessarily do. We have to accept the fact that some folks might have some grudges born out of hardship. Unfortunately that’s just reality.

In my opinion if any male differs from that, that's where the prefix is needed.

I don't need a straight flag, a straight parade, a straight pride day, or etc.
I am just me. I am happy with me and my life. Maybe I am just lucky.

I’m with you there.
I’m not actually 100% “confirmed” on my sexual orientation. That’s my own issue to sort out and I tend to be a very private person. So I ask to please forgive me for not divulging anything further.
And I ask that you extend that same courtesy to the folks on this forum. Even though it’s anonymous, that doesn’t guarantee folks will be willing to be upfront about personal matters. I’m certainly not. Trauma and social judgement can affect people in pretty dramatic ways. Speaking generally , of course

 

[We Never Know]

I have to agree. Remember though that folks, even on Anonymous forums, may carry their own trauma.
I certainly have a lot of baggage. I try my best to hold back but I can sometimes lash out. Not proud of that, but I’m only human, right?

Misery loves bourbon in my experience


I’m a woman, born and bred. Though I’ll admit to having some very “masculine” interests. But I don’t have gender dysphoria. Maybe I fall somewhere on the gender spectrum if I was properly analysed, I dunno.
But in terms of Aussie culture I’m just a typical run of the mill tomboy. I accept that and I’m happy
For others their identity can be something born of trauma. Just because you and I have an idyllic life, so to speak, doesn’t mean others necessarily do. We have to accept the fact that some folks might have some grudges born out of hardship. Unfortunately that’s just reality.

I’m with you there.
I’m not actually 100% “confirmed” on my sexual orientation. That’s my own issue to sort out and I tend to be a very private person. So I ask to please forgive me for not divulging anything further.
And I ask that you extend that same courtesy to the folks on this forum. Even though it’s anonymous, that doesn’t guarantee folks will be willing to be upfront about personal matters. I’m certainly not. Trauma and social judgement can affect people in pretty dramatic ways. Speaking generally , of course

Oh I have my issues/troubles but I don't bring them up. Bringing them up publically opens them up to questions.
The only time I can think of when I brought something up was about my grandsons. I did so seeking opinions and advice.
I am also happy to say that is no longer a problem. On the other hand it saddens me that my daughter had to leave and file for divorce to rid themselves(her and my grandsons) of the problem.

 

[SomeRandom]

Oh I have my issues/troubles but I don't bring them up. Bringing them up publically opens them up to questions.
The only time I can think of when I brought something up was about my grandsons. I did so seeking opinions and advice.
I am also happy to say that is no longer a problem. On the other hand it saddens me that my daughter had to leave and file for divorce to rid themselves(her and my grandsons) of the problem.

See? We all have our baggage. Such is life, eh?
Again I ask you to please have patience. Sometimes there’s just some questions or queries that just brings out the claws, so to speak. That’s an unfortunate consequence of years of social stigma towards certain folks. I’m including myself in that
(My family is mixed race.)
It’s not that people are trying to be mean to you. It’s just that long term trauma can make folks uneasy or otherwise unnecessarily suspicious. Again speaking generally, of course.
And I’m sorry to hear of your daughter’s issues. I hope they can be resolved or have been.

 

[We Never Know]

See? We all have our baggage. Such is life, eh?
Again I ask you to please have patience. Sometimes there’s just some questions or queries that just brings out the claws, so to speak. That’s an unfortunate consequence of years of social stigma towards certain folks. I’m including myself in that
(My family is mixed race.)
It’s not that people are trying to be mean to you. It’s just that long term trauma can make folks uneasy or otherwise unnecessarily suspicious. Again speaking generally, of course.
And I’m sorry to hear of your daughter’s issues. I hope they can be resolved or have been.

I try to keep an open mind/look at both sides to most everything.

I'm am older fella so for example, we all probably heard someone say "these kids now days all they do is stay on their phone or playing video games" when I was young we played outside, rode bikes, went hunting, fishing and hiking"

While that is true, one must ask theirself would we have did all those things if we had phones or video games back then.

Things change. I agree it wouldn't hurt for kids to spent less time on them.
Sometimes we need to keep the changes in-check instead of letting them run wild.

 

[SomeRandom]

I try to keep an open mind/look at both sides to most everything.

I think that’s why I wanted to “defend” you here.
You seem to me to be someone who isn’t malicious, but genuinely curious and wanting to learn. I’m sorry that the thread sort of backfired on you. I hope it doesn’t cause you any ill effects

I'm am older fella so for example, we all probably heard someone say "these kids now days all they do is stay on their phone or playing video games" when I was young we played outside, rode bikes, went hunting, fishing and hiking"

Ahh my pa was the same lol
He grew up in the 1930s if you can believe it?!!
Very progressive but very old school all the same,
Would always be trying to get me off my “darned video games” lol
I remember we went fishing. Didn’t catch anything but it was fun all the same haha

While that is true, one must ask theirself would we have did all those things if we had phones or video games back then.

Valid point

Things change. I agree it wouldn't hurt for kids to spent less time on them.
Sometimes we need to keep the changes in-check instead of letting them run wild.

I think that’s a very healthy approach to life

 

[We Never Know]

I think that’s why I wanted to “defend” you here.
You seem to me to be someone who isn’t malicious, but genuinely curious and wanting to learn. I’m sorry that the thread sort of backfired on you. I hope it doesn’t cause you any ill effects


Ahh my pa was the same lol
He grew up in the 1930s if you can believe it?!!
Very progressive but very old school all the same,
Would always be trying to get me off my “darned video games” lol
I remember we went fishing. Didn’t catch anything but it was fun all the same haha



Valid point

I think that’s a very healthy approach to life

In all actuality all the BS could have been avoided if some would have read the whole OP instead of just part of it and jumped in with a nasty attitude. It seems they completely ignored the part I just highlighted in red.

I'm confused because it seems I see mixed signals/claims from posters so I'm just going to flat out ask...

How many transgender people here have fully completed the transition(all surgery, etc)?

If you don't want to answer that is fine.

Participation wasnt required lol

 

[SomeRandom]

In all actuality all the BS could have been avoided if some would have read the whole OP instead of just part of it and jumped in with a nasty attitude. It seems they completely ignored the part I just highlighted in red.



Participation wasnt required lol

I know.
But people are not infallible.
Sometimes people just react. That’s just often what happens
Try not to take to heart. Please

 

[We Never Know]

I know.
But people are not infallible.
Sometimes people just react. That’s just often what happens
Try not to take to heart. Please

In my opinion anyone that lives their life seeking approval from others won't live a happy life.

There is no do-over. Its a one shot deal.
People should live life for theirself and to be happy regaurdless.