Transphobia

[Revoltingest]

Yes it is. It is pretty plain to understand that the suffix "phobia" doesn't always simply just mean "fear", and its use for terms denoting bigotry is widespread.

So you don't recognize that there's any valid disagreement, &
that objection to the evolution of the suffix is just stupidity, eh.

Stop it.

No, I'll keep being obtuse until you give up your simplistic intolerance.

 

[We Never Know]

So if there is a group of people. You will me so far? And you hate those people. You hold negative opinions of those people based purely on the fact that they exist as a form of prejudice on an inalienable trait what else could you call it?

All words are made up.

I would call it dislike, hate. If they hate them extremely, then loathe

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I would call it dislike

Yeah and how do you act on that in general?

 

[We Never Know]

Yeah and how do you act on that in general?

Act on people not liking and/or hating me?
It doesn't bother me a bit.

"What Others Think About You Is None Of Your Business"

Meaning that it’s to your benefit to stop caring about, obsessing about, and wondering about what other people think about you."

What Others Think About You Is None Of Your Business - Truly Living with Lisa Rose | Soul Coach & Reiki

The best advice I've ever received is: "What others think about you is none of your business". It was a game changer, an empowering concept that relieved stress and created happiness in my life. Here's why.

www.trulyliving.net

Or

“What other people think of you really isn’t any of your business: it’s best to not let other people’s opinions prevent you from being the authentic version of yourself.”

Why what other people think of you really is none of your business

You cannot control what others think about you or know what people are thinking. That's why what other people think of you is really none of your business...

www.happiness.com

 

[Father Heathen]

If someone disagrees with or doesn't accept transgenderism as valid or legitimate, then that's their right. But how does that excuse or necessitate antagonizing others and meddling in their lives? Then they disingenuously attempt to frame their witchhunt as if they were the ones on the defense.
Even if you think it's "wrong", it's their body, their life, their choice, so mind your business unless you detest freedom as well.

 

[Father Heathen]

Act on people not liking and/or hating me?
It doesn't bother me a bit.

"What Others Think About You Is None Of Your Business"

Meaning that it’s to your benefit to stop caring about, obsessing about, and wondering about what other people think about you."

What Others Think About You Is None Of Your Business - Truly Living with Lisa Rose | Soul Coach & Reiki

The best advice I've ever received is: "What others think about you is none of your business". It was a game changer, an empowering concept that relieved stress and created happiness in my life. Here's why.

www.trulyliving.net

Or

“What other people think of you really isn’t any of your business: it’s best to not let other people’s opinions prevent you from being the authentic version of yourself.”

Why what other people think of you really is none of your business

You cannot control what others think about you or know what people are thinking. That's why what other people think of you is really none of your business...

www.happiness.com

The problem isn't just being disliked or hated, but how people act upon those feelings in a way that harms others, particularly when it comes to rights and liberty.
I don't care if someone hates me, but I would care they they tossed a brick through my windshield.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

So you don't recognize that there's any valid disagreement, &
that objection to the evolution of the suffix is just stupidity, eh.

Yes. Correct.

Or, at the very least, a willful distraction from the main point. Kind of like if someone is accused of antisemitism, and rather than arguing against the accusation they argue against the usage of the WORD antisemitism, it's etymology, general accuracy, etc.. A person doing that isn't meaningfully engaging with the allegation; they're engaging in a diversion tactic to avoid debating whether or not they are antisemitic. They can't devalue the worth of the claim, so instead they attempt to engage in semantics to devalue the worth of the WORD itself.

After-all, if we can't accuse people of being antisemitic, or homophobic, or racist, or what have you, how can any allegation possibly be true?

No, I'll keep being obtuse until you give up your simplistic intolerance.

My simplistic intolerance of... People pretending they don't understand the meaning of words?

 

[Revoltingest]

Yes. Correct.

Or, at the very least, a willful distraction from the main point. Kind of like if someone is accused of antisemitism, and rather than arguing against the accusation they argue against the usage of the WORD antisemitism, it's etymology, general accuracy, etc.. A person doing that isn't meaningfully engaging with the allegation; they're engaging in a diversion tactic to avoid debating whether or not they are antisemitic. They can't devalue the worth of the claim, so instead they attempt to engage in semantics to devalue the worth of the WORD itself.

After-all, if we can't accuse people of being antisemitic, or homophobic, or racist, or what have you, how can any allegation possibly be true?


My simplistic intolerance of... People pretending they don't understand the meaning of words?

The other side of that coin...
People use "phobia" to dishonestly change opposition
something into an irrational fear of something.

Better to recognize that as words evolve, there'll be conflict.
It's OK to disagree, but nobody gots The Truth.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

The other side of that coin...
People use "phobia" to dishonestly change opposition
something into an irrational fear of something.

Fear is generally regarded as the basis of bigotry.

In any case, I don't care. Argue against the dishonest use, don't argue against a perfectly valid word that has been around for decades.

Better to recognize that as words evolve, there'll be
conflict. It's OK to disagree, but nobody gots The Truth.

I do.

 

[Revoltingest]

Fear is generally regarded as the basis of bigotry.

That seems too limited a view.

I do.

Not seeming that way.
Keep trying.

 

[Friend of Mara]

I would call it dislike, hate. If they hate them extremely, then loathe

Seems like the useful way to denote someone who is demonstrably prejudice against X is to just call them X-phobic. Linguistically it works out just fine. Christanophobia could be coined if you tried hard enough I suppose. Though usually they aren't specific to Christian. And we already had a term for them prior so we usually linguistically fall back to a previously established term. That being Anti-theist. So if someone is like...I don't care for the trans people. They really shouldn't have a lot in life. It would be both accurate and fine to say that person is Transphobic.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Seems like the useful way to denote someone who is demonstrably prejudice against X is to just call them X-phobic. Linguistically it works out just fine. Christanophobia could be coined if you tried hard enough I suppose.

Actually, christophobia is already a thing.

Anti-Christian sentiment or Christophobia constitutes the fear of, hatred of, or prejudice against Christians, the Christian religion, and/or its practices.

Anti-Christian sentiment - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Friend of Mara]

Actually, christophobia is already a thing.

Anti-Christian sentiment or Christophobia constitutes the fear of, hatred of, or prejudice against Christians, the Christian religion, and/or its practices.

Anti-Christian sentiment - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

There ya go. Everything settled then?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Also as the OP suggested Christianphobia, Atheistphobia, Republicanphobia, Democraticphobia and the ridicules list goes on

Withoug explanation. Like many who are opposed to the Bible hold those positions not due to irrational thoughts or emotions but because they've read the Bible amd object to the violence and repression it commands, with many being mistreated by the Church. When people take your rights it's not a phobia to hold a grudge against those who took them.
But when you look at something like negrophobia we very typically see pseudosciences and histories to excuse amd defend their bigotry against people who just exist. Their was also a strong phobia of those of Asian descent (many who were American born) during WWII.
When people take it upon themselves to say they know better than the experts in the field and ban treatments for a medical condition they have and call those people mutants, demonically possessed, sexual predators, inappropriate for children, and break up families based on feelings that is bigotry, it is prejudice and it is why it's appropriate to use the term transphobia.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Those words could be used but that doesn't mean they have to be when there are other words or phrases commonly used for the same things.

Language and etymology isn't always logical, especially in English. There are all sorts of word forms that are commonly used in varied or inconsistent ways. Ultimately, it isn't something that can be strictly enforced and ultimately, it is determined by how people actually use words, regardless of how we'd like them to be used.

After all, there is nothing we can do to stop people saying "less" when they mean "fewer".

Sort od how people have gotten so uses to misusing ultimate we rarely anymore here penultimate. I can probably count on one hand all the times I've heard and seen antepenultimate.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

No, my problem is with people who pick and choose when to use words out of context, and they only apply them to words according to their agenda, then other people hear the word used that way and parrot what they hear till eventually it becomes every day usage. The English language becomes inconsistent that way because people like that make it inconsistent.

Yet we continue to mostly understand each other. Cool!

 

[Revoltingest]

Sort od how people have gotten so uses to misusing ultimate we rarely anymore here penultimate. I can probably count on one hand all the times I've heard and seen antepenultimate.

I'm so smart that I'm in the top 99% percentile!

 

[Kfox]

Yes. Correct.

Or, at the very least, a willful distraction from the main point. Kind of like if someone is accused of antisemitism, and rather than arguing against the accusation they argue against the usage of the WORD antisemitism, it's etymology, general accuracy, etc.

How about if the person is not accused of antisemitism, but they have a problem with how the word is used? Shouldn't they have a right to express why they disagree with how the term is used?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

How about if the person is not accused of antisemitism, but they have a problem with how the word is used? Shouldn't they have a right to express why they disagree with how the term is used?

Again, depends on the individual circumstance. For example, it's fair to express that you think a word is over-used, or used inappropriately.

 

[wellwisher]

I was watching an interview with a well know person from a conservative think tank, which has been collecting data about human sexual preferences for decades. When they first started to collect the data, the LBGTQ orientations were a part of culture, but only represented 0.4% of the population. Today three plus decades later, this number has increased drastically, mostly connected to the youth. The older adults polled have not kept up with this new trend, but still equate to earlier years in terms of much lower numbers.

This data contracts the theory of evolution and genetic theory, since such natural evolutionary change from parents to children over a wide population, over a few decades, does not occur in nature. How can the the same genes change is so many children at the same time?? The only logical conclusion is this change is not natural but is more connected to the psychology of youthful fads; learned behavior for youth generational group acceptance.

It is more extreme than the story of Adam and Eve, becoming the seed for a new human. At least, that theory shows a starting point for the new genes; one or two people, and then a slow boat of change until global permanent genetic changes. Todays data it is like hundreds of thousands of Adam and Eve's appearing, even from parents who do not show the same genetic predisposition. It defies all known science theory for genetics, and therefore has all the ear marks of a youthful fad induction.

I have nothing against the fads of youth, since it is healthy part of growing up, learning, and even defining a generation. But this fad is the most dangerous, yet, since it requires artificial additives and surgery. My youthful fad was long hair, which I could grow or cut. Body piercing and taboos came after me. That generation of youth made deeper changes to the surface of the body; added attached bling and skin decorations. These were still under individual control and choice, and were reversible. If you wish to do these, you did do in the free market, by choice, and not a hospital.

The transgender fad is about an even deeper body image change, involving big Pharm and big Med who see $$$$ and lots of lab rats for practicing experimental methods. Greed may be pushing your fad too far. Your fad is no longer subject to your will and choice, like body art. Big Bother Government has also never been so involved in promoting a youth fad, even at the extreme of calling parents domestic terrorists. This has the earmark of shady adults brain washing children.

My phobia; fear, for the trans fad, is not so much against you, but against your uncertain future. I fear for you, not at you. This is not like body piecing or body art, when the youth rebelled and teachers accommodated but now teachers; adults, are force feeding this fad; proactively. When this fads ends or morphs, again, like all fads do, the choices for reversal, will get very complicated; can make thousands of you become yesterdays fish, forever.

I would get off the train and stick with old fashion cross dressing, which you can control, and reverse on demand. Forcing others to support your fad and your inner doubt, will not last, and is already being resisted. It is a matter of time before you grow up, the fads change and you ask yourself, what did I do?