Transvestites - purpose?

[Reptillian]

What is it with transvestites?

what is the reason for their dressing style?

I imagine it is to be a mild case of gender dysphoria, right?

Where I work there are one or two people like this and it's often awkward whether to refer to them as boy or girl as who knows what they want to be called.

Another question must be - is it possible for a woman to be a transvestite?

when we consider clothing styles; if a woman were to wear generally male attire such as jeans and t-shirt, then it would just be normal.

how about a woman turning up to work in a tie and suit- would that be considered strange and would that make her to be labelled as such.

are there sexual orientation issues at work here?

any ideas?

I cross-dress regularly, and lets just say that "its complicated". Women dressing in men's clothing is certainly much more socially acceptable. I spend most of the time as a guy, but its kind of fun to go out on the town occasionally as a girl. Transvestitism is what happens when adventurous sexuality meets boredom and creativity. I'll say this, women have much better choices when it comes to clothes. Guy clothing is boring and utilitarian, but women's clothing...it's art! I enjoy putting on makeup for the same reason. Dressing up as a woman allows me to explore a side of my personality, and of society in general, that I otherwise would miss out on. I make a pretty convincing female too...if I do say so myself.

Fun fact, most transvestites and cross-dressers are actually heterosexual.

 

[painted wolf]

Some men just find women's clothing to be more comfortable. I knew a hetero man who thought skirts were way more comfortable than pants.

I feel exactly the opposite and loath the things.

I know another guy who just felt sexy dressed in lady things... and another who just thought it was awesome to do for "Rocky Horror".

There are lots of reasons why people do the things they do. Why obsess over other peoples private lives?

wa:do

 

[The Wizard]

What is it with transvestites?

what is the reason for their dressing style?

I imagine it is to be a mild case of gender dysphoria, right?

Where I work there are one or two people like this and it's often awkward whether to refer to them as boy or girl as who knows what they want to be called.

Another question must be - is it possible for a woman to be a transvestite?

when we consider clothing styles; if a woman were to wear generally male attire such as jeans and t-shirt, then it would just be normal.

how about a woman turning up to work in a tie and suit- would that be considered strange and would that make her to be labelled as such.

are there sexual orientation issues at work here?

any ideas?

Many tranvestites are tomboyish and fancy woman. I know becouse a transvestite told me.. Not just any transvestite, but an Executive Transvestite...

 

[Circle_One]

Is anyone else taken aback by the term "ladyboy"? It just makes me cringe and seems very condescending.

 

[nnmartin]

Those are three career paths to really aspire for.

those 3 jobs are fine.

air hostess gets quite a high salary, especially high when you compare it to an average wage in the country that I mentioned (Thailand)

what's wrong with being a receptionist or hotel worker, plenty of people do it.

 

[painted wolf]

those 3 jobs are fine.

air hostess gets quite a high salary, especially high when you compare it to an average wage in the country that I mentioned (Thailand)

what's wrong with being a receptionist or hotel worker, plenty of people do it.

Yeah, because having three options is just fine.... like back in the day when women had the "just fine" choices of secretary, nurse, school teacher or housekeeper.
Heck, we even got one extra choice.... man those were the days huh, how could we ever have been dissatisfied with all that?

wa:do

 

[Kerr]

What is it with transvestites?

what is the reason for their dressing style?

I imagine it is to be a mild case of gender dysphoria, right?

Where I work there are one or two people like this and it's often awkward whether to refer to them as boy or girl as who knows what they want to be called.

Another question must be - is it possible for a woman to be a transvestite?

when we consider clothing styles; if a woman were to wear generally male attire such as jeans and t-shirt, then it would just be normal.

how about a woman turning up to work in a tie and suit- would that be considered strange and would that make her to be labelled as such.

are there sexual orientation issues at work here?

any ideas?

I dont know, quite frankly I do not understand it what so ever. But I do think they are a little awesome because they are brave enough to go against what is considered "normal" and go their own way.

 

[dust1n]

those 3 jobs are fine.

air hostess gets quite a high salary, especially high when you compare it to an average wage in the country that I mentioned (Thailand)

what's wrong with being a receptionist or hotel worker, plenty of people do it.

That's a good point, and I'm glad that transvestites & transexuals can find work outside of sex labor, but really, I think they should be able to work in any field assuming that they have the same qualifications. I do agree with you though that it's a positive thing...

 

[dust1n]

Is anyone else taken aback by the term "ladyboy"? It just makes me cringe and seems very condescending.

Condescending? Sounds like a slur that was finally adapted, like the way a gay American might use '******', a girl might use '*****' or '****'. It is a little distrubing, ain't it..

 

[nnmartin]

as far as employment is concerned I am not aware of any laws restricting ladyboys particularly. Dress style should be up to the employer and they would decide on appropriate clothing relevant to gender.

so a transvestite would be unlikely to fit in.

that seems fair enough and sensible to me - a man dressed as a woman would be bad for business just in the same way that a man with green hair and noserings would be.

what's the issue here, if any?

 

[dust1n]

as far as employment is concerned I am not aware of any laws restricting ladyboys particularly. Dress style should be up to the employer and they would decide on appropriate clothing relevant to gender.

so a transvestite would be unlikely to fit in.

that seems fair enough and sensible to me - a man dressed as a woman would be bad for business just in the same way that a man with green hair and noserings would be.

what's the issue here, if any?

Um, it results in a impoverished minority of people because of trivial distaste? No issues striking you here?

I'd imagine that in Thai, the issue is one that is largely cultural. I would imagine the appropriate way to handle that is for Thai transvestites/sexuals and sympathizers to openly, ya know, degrade them (degraders of transvestites,etc.) to three positions of employment, if they are lucky enough to escape sex labor and/or sex slavery. Jokes aside, they should speak up as often as possible, and not except just "well they have it better now than they did 3 years ago."

 

[Shadow Wolf]

as for eye candy, some transvestites can look good from a distance especially out in Bangkok, and sometimes it is hard to tell for sure.

In Taiwan birth control pills are available over the counter so many of them are able to start on estrogen hormones before testosterone has shaped their bodies.
But there are many different reasons people do it. Some do it because they find it do be more comfortable, some because the right sizes are easier to find (especially jeans), some do it for sexual reasons, some have a desire to express themselves as the opposite sex from time to time, some people do it as cosplay (Rocky Horror Picture Show being the example), and some do it as a part of a deeper understanding of themselves. And there are many more reasons out there.
As for sexual orientation, it should not be thought of as the typical hetero/homo model. As far as statistics go, most are married and consider themselves heterosexual. However some people do crossdress for sexual purposes, sometimes to fantasize about being a woman themselves, sometimes it's a thrill of the taboo, sometimes they are attracted to men while dressed, and then for some there is nothing sexual about it.
But it cannot be emphased enough that as far as psychology is concerned, sexual orientation and gender identity are considered to be two different subjects with a slight overlap.
And when it comes to women dressing in men's clothing, it is a double standard and hypocrisy of society, but it is most likely rooted in that our society is very patriarchal and women who try to emulate men are acceptable (but more so at a younger age), but when men try to act like women are met with varying degrees of hostility.

what's the issue here, if any?

Since you keep mentioning ladyboys, then you are not talking about just a transvestite, but someone who lives full time as the opposite sex, and takes steps to alter their body to better match their internalized identity. It's a major issue because they aren't men so why have them show up to work dressed as men who are wearing a bra because they have breasts?

 

[JacobEzra.]

Dress style should be up to the employer and they would decide on appropriate clothing relevant to gender.

so a transvestite would be unlikely to fit in.

Why would a transvestite be unlikely to fit in? Your claim doesn't even make sense.

 

[beenie]

Why must they have a "purpose"?

They just are.

 

[connermt]

Why must they have a "purpose"?

They just are.

I've asked the same question. I have yet to see an answer.

 

[nnmartin]

everything has a purpose and it is in accordance with God's grand design.

that aside, it is simple enough to deal with this ridiculous issue.

if a ladyboy wants a job , then all he need do is stop his dysfunctional behaviour for enough time to dress properly and earn a paycheck.

when he goes back home in the evening he is free to put his bra and skirt back on.

most people would call this compromise 'being an adult'.

 

[JacobEzra.]

everything has a purpose and it is in accordance with God's grand design.

that aside, it is simple enough to deal with this ridiculous issue.

if a ladyboy wants a job , then all he need do is stop his dysfunctional behaviour for enough time to dress properly and earn a paycheck.

when he goes back home in the evening he is free to put his bra and skirt back on.

most people would call this compromise 'being an adult'.

You should be the last one to talk about 'being an adult' Mr 20 lashes to adulterers

 

[connermt]

everything has a purpose and it is in accordance with God's grand design.

that aside, it is simple enough to deal with this ridiculous issue.

if a ladyboy wants a job , then all he need do is stop his dysfunctional behaviour for enough time to dress properly and earn a paycheck.

when he goes back home in the evening he is free to put his bra and skirt back on.

most people would call this compromise 'being an adult'.

Let's assume you are correct that everything has a purpose of god's plan.
Why do you need to know what the purpose is? Why not let this glorious plan of this wonderful god you seem to serve 'do its thing'.
Sit back and take care of yourself and not worry about other people for a change.
Or are you so bored with your own life (or disappointed) that you must interfere with the lives of others?
Seems pathetic really.

 

[dust1n]

everything has a purpose and it is in accordance with God's grand design.

Rabies?

Supernovas?

Higgs Bosom?

Nietzsche?

Sand?

Sandstone?

Giant squids?

Gold?

Borium?

RF?

All of these have a divine purpose, but transvestites don't?

that aside, it is simple enough to deal with this ridiculous issue.

if a ladyboy wants a job , then all he need do is stop his dysfunctional behaviour for enough time to dress properly and earn a paycheck.

when he goes back home in the evening he is free to put his bra and skirt back on.

most people would call this compromise 'being an adult'.

Can't argue with that - so by virute of their actions, it seems that many feel so heavily about their gender identity, regardless of society's stance, that they rather take a lower position in society so that they percieve themselves in a way they feel comfortable with. Not to mention, this would be true of only specifically men who wished to dress up like females. Meantime, the Thai government will continue do legally ignore the existence of 'kathoey'.

 

[Kerr]

everything has a purpose and it is in accordance with God's grand design.

that aside, it is simple enough to deal with this ridiculous issue.

if a ladyboy wants a job , then all he need do is stop his dysfunctional behaviour for enough time to dress properly and earn a paycheck.

when he goes back home in the evening he is free to put his bra and skirt back on.

most people would call this compromise 'being an adult'.

You are forgetting that transvestites can pretty much look like a lady and not just like a man dressed up as a lady. They can work without raising an eyebrow.