Transvestites - purpose?

[nnmartin]

if they can get away with it then that's fine but I imagine they could be fired for lying on the job application form where they have to tick the gender box.

I can't really see having ladyboys as staff in many professions is good for business.

how about a school teacher for instance?

 

[Alex_G]

nmartin, i have to say, as has been said before there is a big difference between those people who dress in novel ways from time to time for fetish or fun, and those people who's very self identity and gender is different. Many of these transexual people, even though they are genetically xy, are female in gender and identity, and its not for anyone else to tell them otherwise, or condem them morally for being themselves, I think its quite brave. They dont need or deserve the stigma, and i would have absolutely no objection in seeing any of these individuals in any job they chose to do, from school teacher to physicist to doctor.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

*sigh*

 

[connermt]

if they can get away with it then that's fine but I imagine they could be fired for lying on the job application form where they have to tick the gender box.

I can't really see having ladyboys as staff in many professions is good for business.

how about a school teacher for instance?

You'll be surprised. Many people are more tolerant and easy to live with than you. Many people are secure enough with themselves to be able to work along side, even be friends with, people different than themselves.
Your loss

 

[Kerr]

if they can get away with it then that's fine but I imagine they could be fired for lying on the job application form where they have to tick the gender box.

I can't really see having ladyboys as staff in many professions is good for business.

how about a school teacher for instance?

Some people will of course have issues with that. Like some people have issues with gays or other minorities. But they should not be the ones who set the standards. As far as I am concerned they should be able to get any job they please, assuming they are qualified... dressing as a women does not mean you are not qualified for whatever job you have.

Do you think someone who is gay can be a teacher? Or an hermaphrodite?

 

[JacobEzra.]

how about a school teacher for instance?

Since when has the way one dresses have to do with teaching? If anything intelligence, patience and skill.

A ladyboy would more then likely be a better teacher then some, who believe going back to the dark ages is best

 

[Kerr]

Since when has the way one dresses have to do with teaching? If anything intelligence, patience and skill.

A ladyboy would more then likely be a better teacher then some, who believe going back to the dark ages is best

If anything you can argue it will help the children to become tolerant, since they are not just exposed to what is "normal".

 

[nnmartin]

I think dress codes in the work place would need to be abolished first before any headway could be made in this area.

Of course a ladyboy could be a teacher but would the employers be willing to accept one as it may harm their business (ie:in a private school).

this cannot really be legislated for.

in fact, to be able to teach one does not necessarily need a college degree to be able to do it, yet most schools require one as it looks good for the parents. There are many unfair conditions in the workplace.

 

[JacobEzra.]

I think dress codes in the work place would need to be abolished first before any headway could be made in this area.

Of course a ladyboy could be a teacher but would the employers be willing to accept one as it may harm their business (ie:in a private school).

this cannot really be legislated for.

in fact, to be able to teach one does not necessarily need a college degree to be able to do it, yet most schools require one as it looks good for the parents. There are many unfair conditions in the workplace.

First, you need to establish exactly how a ladyboy would harm their buisness.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

any ideas?

"What's with the speck in that other person's eye? Seriously!"

You do claim to be a Christian, don't you?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

if they can get away with it then that's fine but I imagine they could be fired for lying on the job application form where they have to tick the gender box.

I can't really see having ladyboys as staff in many professions is good for business.

how about a school teacher for instance?

I'm not sure how things work where you are, but I can't recall ever having a "gender box" to tick on the application form for any job I've ever applied for.

 

[Kerr]

I think dress codes in the work place would need to be abolished first before any headway could be made in this area.

Dress codes dont care about transvestites.

Of course a ladyboy could be a teacher but would the employers be willing to accept one as it may harm their business (ie:in a private school).

this cannot really be legislated for.

in fact, to be able to teach one does not necessarily need a college degree to be able to do it, yet most schools require one as it looks good for the parents. There are many unfair conditions in the workplace.

Sure, the world is not fair. But that doesnt mean we should not try and make it more fair. Also, I am not sure what you are trying to get at by saying they wont get jobs because it is bad for business. Are you merely saying how it is or do you also believe it is the way it should be?

 

[Neo-Logic]

well that's not entirely true.

there are some airlines in Asia that now hire ladyboys as air hostesses.

they can also find work as receptionists and hotel staff

(all three of these examples I have actually seen with my own eyes)

They'd be the exceptions, not the rule.

The point was to mention that even in a place like Thailand where ladyboys are culturally tolerated compared to other parts of the world, they still face economic challenges and legal disfranchisement, making their (or anyone else's) decision to modify their gender a choice that takes a lot of courage.

In short, it takes big balls to make the choice to have it snipped off.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

how about a school teacher for instance?

There actually are teachers who have transitioned from one sex to the other out there. And because many people, especially at certain universities, are tolerant and don't really care I have considered teaching at the collegiate level.

if they can get away with it then that's fine but I imagine they could be fired for lying on the job application form where they have to tick the gender box.

Is it lying when that is what their drivers license says? Or in some cases what their birth certificate says?

 

[nnmartin]

First, you need to establish exactly how a ladyboy would harm their buisness.

it is just likely that many would be customers would choose to spend their money elsewhere - .

take a school for instance - I am sure a lot of parents would prefer to not have a ladyboy teach their child so would likely go to another business for tuition.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

take a school for instance - I am sure a lot of parents would prefer to not have a ladyboy teach their child so would likely go to another business for tuition.

And if you said that about blacks, about 60 years ago you would have fit in but today because we know better (in that we know African Americans are not in any way less qualified to teach) I can say I have had the pleasure of having a man as a teacher who actually made math classes amusing, and he just so happens to be black. But in reality his skin color has nothing to do with it, but had that not become tolerated within society I would not have had a person with such a cheerful and joyful personality as a teacher.
One's gender identity also has nothing to do with teaching. Rather than saying intolerant parents should have there way because there kids might learn to accept people who are different, we should be insistent and we should be granted equal rights and opportunities. Parents should be educated themselves with what science says, and should not be given special treatment because they are unable to get along well with others.
But even if someone identifies as male and dresses as female, as long as the kids are getting a good education and the teacher has excellent job performance, why should it matter? And why should those who fully transition from one sex to other be expected to work as their former selves when their legal identity states they are their new selves?

 

[JacobEzra.]

it is just likely that many would be customers would choose to spend their money elsewhere - .

take a school for instance - I am sure a lot of parents would prefer to not have a ladyboy teach their child so would likely go to another business for tuition.

Again, you haven't proven anything.

Id rather my child get a great education, even if helped by a ladyboy, then by a bigot

 

[painted wolf]

it is just likely that many would be customers would choose to spend their money elsewhere - .

take a school for instance - I am sure a lot of parents would prefer to not have a ladyboy teach their child so would likely go to another business for tuition.

And many won't care... if you had a customer who refused to be served by someone of a particular race or religion would you fire them to make those customers happy?

wa:do

 

[Shadow Wolf]

And many won't care... if you had a customer who refused to be served by someone of a particular race or religion would you fire them to make those customers happy?

I know a Muslim girl who used to work at McDonalds, and the treatment she received from some customers was terrible, even by fast food standards. Now of course she is not really a terrorist, and she would not have poisoned anyone's food, but it didn't stop people from complaining, or stop them from buying their little slabs of grease. Unfortunately though one of the managers did wish she would just quit so he wouldn't have to keep defending her on a near-daily basis. She doesn't work there anymore (she got a job were she is treated more like a human on a more regular basis), but her presence seemed to not really be detrimental to McDonald's business.

 

[blackout]

What is the reason for ANYONE'S dressing style?